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Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon Alexa devices

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Re: Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon Alexa devices

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Which is also legal in some places of Europe, it's called "practicing" or whatever.

I think the system in Europe is more about practicing skilled trade than just doing unskilled factory work. If this story was about kids apprenticing to be plumbers, then I think there would be much less outrage.

Depends on the course, same practical internship are pretty much of the level of unskilled work. Still not okay without at least a decent pay if you ask me.

Re: Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon Alexa devices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the system in Europe is more about practicing skilled trade than just doing unskilled factory work. If this story was about kids apprenticing to be plumbers, then I think there would be much less outrage.

Depends on the course, same practical internship are pretty much of the level of unskilled work. Still not okay without at least a decent pay if you ask me.

I don’t think 16 and a half kuai is very decent, but these kids are mostly from rural areas so it might seem like a good deal to them.

Re: Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon Alexa devices

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>Leaked documents show children as young as 16 recruited by Amazon supplier Foxconn work gruelling and illegal hours 16 is a legal age to work in many places of Europe, including my very own country. What exactly am I missing here? Also isn't it a bit manipulative to call a 16 year old teenager a "schoolchild"?

From what I have gathered, it is pretty normal in America/English to call 16 years old "children" (although Guardian is from the UK), in contrast to Germany/German, where apparently they normally wouldn't be called "Kinder" but "Jugendliche". So maybe it is just a linguistic or cultural difference to your country.

Edit: I think it is also a method to differentiate K-12 schools from higher education. Although "college kids" does also appear to be used often in America (don't know about the UK). I am not sure whether "kid" and "child" can refer to different age groups.

Re: Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon Alexa devices

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>Leaked documents show children as young as 16 recruited by Amazon supplier Foxconn work gruelling and illegal hours 16 is a legal age to work in many places of Europe, including my very own country. What exactly am I missing here? Also isn't it a bit manipulative to call a 16 year old teenager a "schoolchild"?

From what I have gathered, it is pretty normal in America/English to call 16 years old "children" (although Guardian is from the UK), in contrast to Germany/German, where apparently they normally wouldn't be called "Kinder" but "Jugendliche". So maybe it is just a linguistic or cultural difference to your country. Edit: I think it is also a method to differentiate K-12 schools from higher education. Although "college…

Article should use the word teenager, not children - seems misleading.

In many countries the legal age to work is 14 or 15.

Re: Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon Alexa devices

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>Leaked documents show children as young as 16 recruited by Amazon supplier Foxconn work gruelling and illegal hours 16 is a legal age to work in many places of Europe, including my very own country. What exactly am I missing here? Also isn't it a bit manipulative to call a 16 year old teenager a "schoolchild"?

More interesting in my opinion than stocking the shelves at the supermarket.

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The company said in a statement: “We have doubled the oversight and monitoring of the internship program with each relevant partner school to ensure that, under no circumstances, will interns [be] allowed to work overtime or nights." My dear Chinese friends, does Chinese govt bother to punish FoxConn for this or overtime is just norm in industry ?

I’d say it’s very likely considering China has all but admitted that its previous policy of favoring Taiwanese companies to push for economic unification has backfired. I think it’s a matter of time before China finds an excuse to kick every Taiwanese company out.

Re: Schoolchildren in China work overnight to produce Amazon Alexa devices

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is also legal in some places of Europe, it's called "practicing" or whatever.

I think the system in Europe is more about practicing skilled trade than just doing unskilled factory work. If this story was about kids apprenticing to be plumbers, then I think there would be much less outrage.

I do not know how it is now, but when I worked with companies doing apprenticeships for electricians in the Netherlands a while ago, I noticed most of them (the “children”) did unskilled or no work at all and did not care because the company signed off on their work so they would graduate.

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I have gathered, it is pretty normal in America/English to call 16 years old "children" (although Guardian is from the UK), in contrast to Germany/German, where apparently they normally wouldn't be called "Kinder" but "Jugendliche". So maybe it is just a linguistic or cultural difference to your country. Edit: I think it is also a method to differentiate K-12 schools from higher education. Although "college…

Article should use the word teenager, not children - seems misleading. In many countries the legal age to work is 14 or 15.

This is also age of consent in many European countries.
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