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The Fed is getting into the Real-Time payments business

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Re: The Fed is getting into the Real-Time payments business

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Some real-time payment infrastructures to compare to: UK - Faster Payments Service (2008) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster_Payments_Service EU - SEPA Instant Credit (2017) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area#SEPA... Australia - New Payments Platform (2018) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Payments_Platform

Hopefully Canada next and no, Interac isn't an equivalent service.

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Some real-time payment infrastructures to compare to: UK - Faster Payments Service (2008) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster_Payments_Service EU - SEPA Instant Credit (2017) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area#SEPA... Australia - New Payments Platform (2018) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Payments_Platform

Mexico - SPEI (2004)

http://www.anterior.banxico.org.mx/sistemas-de-pago/servicio...

Re: The Fed is getting into the Real-Time payments business

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I'm still hoping for something similar where I currently live, here in Switzerland (not in the EU). Payments generally arrive the next business day but that isn't good enough for most in-person transactions.

Is Switzerland working on something along those lines now? I'm surprised, given the outsized Swiss position in global banking, that they're not among the leaders on this front.

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I expect banks to start charging a $65 per transaction premium to interface with this system.

FedACH, or "direct deposit", costs pennies wholesale [0]. The value proposition of Venmo/Zelle is not just that they're instant, but that the fees are not insane. Compare that to retail banks which charge upwards of $35 for a "next-day ACH".

The Fed should impose fee caps to encourage adoption.

[0] https://www.frbservices.org/resources/fees/ach-2019.html

Re: The Fed is getting into the Real-Time payments business

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I expect banks to start charging a $65 per transaction premium to interface with this system. FedACH, or "direct deposit", costs pennies wholesale [0]. The value proposition of Venmo/Zelle is not just that they're instant, but that the fees are not insane. Compare that to retail banks which charge upwards of $35 for a "next-day ACH". The Fed should impose fee caps to encourage adoption. [0] https://www.frbservices.or…

Chase has free instant ACH to your own accounts now. Though some suspect it's using Zelle under the hood.

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How does effect Visa & MasterCard

Both companies already offer real-time payment services:

Visa: https://developer.visa.com/capabilities/visa_direct Mastercard: https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/issuers/products-and-solutio...

According to https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomgroenfeldt/2019/03/15/visa-d... >50% of Uber/Lyft drivers opt to pay a 50 cent fee to get paid in real-time instead of via ACH.

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post #4

I'm still hoping for something similar where I currently live, here in Switzerland (not in the EU). Payments generally arrive the next business day but that isn't good enough for most in-person transactions.

Is Switzerland working on something along those lines now? I'm surprised, given the outsized Swiss position in global banking, that they're not among the leaders on this front.

Switzerland has access to SEPA, I believe, as a member of the European Free Trade Association. I don't think it's widely accepted.

Re: The Fed is getting into the Real-Time payments business

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I expect banks to start charging a $65 per transaction premium to interface with this system. FedACH, or "direct deposit", costs pennies wholesale [0]. The value proposition of Venmo/Zelle is not just that they're instant, but that the fees are not insane. Compare that to retail banks which charge upwards of $35 for a "next-day ACH". The Fed should impose fee caps to encourage adoption. [0] https://www.frbservices.or…

> Compare that to retail banks which charge upwards of $35 for a "next-day ACH".

Is that still common? None of my banks / credit unions charges for incoming or outgoing ACH transfers.

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