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Hong Kong protests: 'I'm in Australia but I feel censored by Chinese students'

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Re: Hong Kong protests: 'I'm in Australia but I feel censored by Chinese students'

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The violent pro China protestors should be kicked out of Australia. If you violently push your pro authoritarian views in your democratic host country, they have every right to kick you out.

But what will the universities do without all that nice Chinese student revenue?

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#13

Haven't these pro-Beijing students ever tried to access uncensored information online that was denied to them until they arrived in their host countries? Why are they content to continue believe in the propaganda? You'd think that even a casual search for a subject like Tiananmen Square would be a wake-up call.

Their government incentivizes this behavior. They will be willfully ignorant to those events so that they can maintain social standing back home.

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post #12

Kids will be kids, but the consul generals words do frighten me. It’s whistle blowing to Chinese kids that it’s okay to incite violence. Patriotism is never an excuse for harming others.

Welcome to the new chinese imperialism

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post #9

Good. China has every right to control its territories and this includes Hong Kong. If the KKK were to stage an anti-Black protest in an American university they would be rightfully similarly attacked and persecuted. China is only defending its rights. Those HK protesters need to face justice.

1. The KKK regularly conducts perfectly legal marches, typically receiving police protection in the process.

2. Hong Kong has rights, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Basic_Law

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post #9

Good. China has every right to control its territories and this includes Hong Kong. If the KKK were to stage an anti-Black protest in an American university they would be rightfully similarly attacked and persecuted. China is only defending its rights. Those HK protesters need to face justice.

Chinese territory doesn't include Australia, though...

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Haven't these pro-Beijing students ever tried to access uncensored information online that was denied to them until they arrived in their host countries? Why are they content to continue believe in the propaganda? You'd think that even a casual search for a subject like Tiananmen Square would be a wake-up call.

That’s not how propaganda works, I assume the vast majority of these students haven’t left the country until close to adulthood. I completed elementary school in China and the teaching begins in grade 1 for students to believe in communism and patriotism. When you have been raised in that belief for your entire life, changing your belief system is not as simple as “look what other people with a different view say!”. Same goes for how people in other countries have a hard time understanding the need for civilians to hold guns, and yet no matter how many logical reasoning you throw, a large portion of Americans still believe in guns.

Edit: my comment was downvoted, unsure if it’s because the comparison for gun law in the states provoked someone, but if that was the case it just goes to show how difficult it’d be for someone to change the belief system they’ve been raised with

Re: Hong Kong protests: 'I'm in Australia but I feel censored by Chinese students'

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Haven't these pro-Beijing students ever tried to access uncensored information online that was denied to them until they arrived in their host countries? Why are they content to continue believe in the propaganda? You'd think that even a casual search for a subject like Tiananmen Square would be a wake-up call.

Their sense of loyalty and identity is the reason. People are hesitant to absorb information that questions their identity and they're even more hesitant when they feel that that identity is being threatened. Their sense of identity in this case is not just something random but something instilled in them since a young age by the Chinese government. They feel a loyalty to the Chinese government and so are willing to propogandize themselves.

Bear in mind, if you are a Chinese national studying abroad you are probably well off as far as Chinese nationals go. This means that you are probably a strong beneficiary of the current Chinese regime. So you're likely to be very attached to it, unlike people who are not well off or are repressed. Those people probably aren't studying abroad.

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post #9

Good. China has every right to control its territories and this includes Hong Kong. If the KKK were to stage an anti-Black protest in an American university they would be rightfully similarly attacked and persecuted. China is only defending its rights. Those HK protesters need to face justice.

Oh man, so you equate peaceful protest to KKK. What justice is it by the way? Seems like you are trying to define the law to your own definition.

Re: Hong Kong protests: 'I'm in Australia but I feel censored by Chinese students'

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“Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.”

This is off-topic.

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