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Interesting concept bicycle design by Bradford Waugh

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hubless wheels are stupid .

Why? No chain is a pretty nice feature. I think a lot of casual commuters would be willing to accept quite a bit of downside to get their hands on a chainless bike (that isn't a penny-farthing or a unicycle).

You could also just get a bike that features a belt-drive, like the Gates carbon belt. Completely greaseless. The Trek District was even shortlisted for a Brit Insurance Design Award.

Re: Interesting concept bicycle design by Bradford Waugh

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My favorite part is wondering how exactly the front wheel is supposed to support any weight. Besides the part where the hoop will buckle from the weight being applied at the top-dead-center, how exactly is the force transfered!?

Not to mention the rake looks too small (aka zero), and the axis of rotation of the handlebars is not centered with the actual axis of rotation of the front end. That will be fun to pilot.

Re: Interesting concept bicycle design by Bradford Waugh

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Dear design students: The standard upright bicycle has looked almost exactly the same for over a century, for very good reason. The basic diamond-frame design is very close to perfect. A derailed-chain drivetrain can exceed 98% efficiency, is cheap to build and is trivially easy to repair and maintain. I love folders, I love recumbents, I love full-sus mountain bikes, but for 99% of riders and 99% of journeys, precio…

I agree with most of your statements. However, the designer stated that it was a concept design, not meant to be implemented in real life. I could see this used in a futuristic movie, for example. To discourage someone from creating art that gives them pleasure though nonfunctional is wrong to me.

Shouldn't a concept design acknowledge physical law with at least a tiny nod towards actual application? Otherwise it's art for art's sake, not design.

Re: Interesting concept bicycle design by Bradford Waugh

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Dear design students: The standard upright bicycle has looked almost exactly the same for over a century, for very good reason. The basic diamond-frame design is very close to perfect. A derailed-chain drivetrain can exceed 98% efficiency, is cheap to build and is trivially easy to repair and maintain. I love folders, I love recumbents, I love full-sus mountain bikes, but for 99% of riders and 99% of journeys, precio…

In almost any realm it is easy to design things that are "cool looking but useless". This is all the more troublesome when one manages to deceive oneself into thinking that it is not useless and to deceive others into investing or working on it.

Something to keep in mind while you're kicking around those ideas for new startups in the back of your head.

Re: Interesting concept bicycle design by Bradford Waugh

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Dear design students: The standard upright bicycle has looked almost exactly the same for over a century, for very good reason. The basic diamond-frame design is very close to perfect. A derailed-chain drivetrain can exceed 98% efficiency, is cheap to build and is trivially easy to repair and maintain. I love folders, I love recumbents, I love full-sus mountain bikes, but for 99% of riders and 99% of journeys, precio…

I can't tell if you're saying that bicycle design is a 'solved problem' or if everything that can be invented has already been invented. Either one is a perfectly valid excuse for not looking at anything in an entirely different way, I suppose. People thought that fire solved all their energy needs for thousands of years, right?

Though the seat does look a little far off the center of gravity to me.

Re: Interesting concept bicycle design by Bradford Waugh

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Dear design students: The standard upright bicycle has looked almost exactly the same for over a century, for very good reason. The basic diamond-frame design is very close to perfect. A derailed-chain drivetrain can exceed 98% efficiency, is cheap to build and is trivially easy to repair and maintain. I love folders, I love recumbents, I love full-sus mountain bikes, but for 99% of riders and 99% of journeys, precio…

I can't tell if you're saying that bicycle design is a 'solved problem' or if everything that can be invented has already been invented. Either one is a perfectly valid excuse for not looking at anything in an entirely different way, I suppose. People thought that fire solved all their energy needs for thousands of years, right? Though the seat does look a little far off the center of gravity to me.

I think he's saying that the designer should've started off with understanding why the components of the modern bicycle exist in their current form, in order to more effectively find ways to truly improve them.
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