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Employee happiness and business success are linked

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Re: Employee happiness and business success are linked

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Ursine genes and woodland defecation also seem to correlate.

Yes, I am also shocked to learn that employees aren't happy in companies that aren't doing well. What's next, are you going to tell me that people who live in successful cities are happier than those in decaying ones?

Re: Employee happiness and business success are linked

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They did look at causation: "the authors cite studies of changes within individual firms and organisations which seem to show that improvements in employee morale precede gains in productivity, rather than the other way round."

Many of us understand the other causation arrow (corporate unsuccess leads to unhappiness!)

Re: Employee happiness and business success are linked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a lot of engineers that work for Amazon that are happy. Warehouse workers on the other hand...

...are experiencing pay and conditions that are vastly better than other warehouses. See https://quillette.com/2019/07/19/the-problem-with-tourist-jo...

on twitter, @amazonnews tweeted a link to that and they got ratioed so hard that they deleted the tweet a few hours later. that is ... not a good piece.

Re: Employee happiness and business success are linked

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Amazon seems to be doing alright regardless.

I know a lot of engineers that work for Amazon that are happy. Warehouse workers on the other hand...

The overwork has been well reported, but the unpaid time spent in mandatory daily security checks, seems to get overlooked.

Somehow, US courts decided that's allowed. Could've sworn UK courts came to a similar decision recently, but I can't find a source.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/2014/12/0...

Re: Employee happiness and business success are linked

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post #12
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Ursine genes and woodland defecation also seem to correlate.

Yes, I am also shocked to learn that employees aren't happy in companies that aren't doing well. What's next, are you going to tell me that people who live in successful cities are happier than those in decaying ones?

I know that's in jest, but boy have I experienced that one. There's nothing like being surrounded by a whole city of people who've lost all hope to get you out of bed in the morning.

Re: Employee happiness and business success are linked

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Amazon seems to be doing alright regardless.

I know a lot of engineers that work for Amazon that are happy. Warehouse workers on the other hand...

There's an Amazon warehouse near me. My neighbor works for USPS. Amazon is poaching tons of their employees and it's really hurting USPS because Amazon is so much better. If he wasn't holding out for one more year to get full retirement from USPS he would have jumped ship too. Instead, he's hoping to work for Amazon part time during retirement.

I'm not suggesting that there aren't problems with Amazon warehouses, but I think a lot of the reaction is from highly educated wealthy liberal types who don't know what it's like to work hard labor jobs.

Re: Employee happiness and business success are linked

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Ursine genes and woodland defecation also seem to correlate.

Yes, I am also shocked to learn that employees aren't happy in companies that aren't doing well. What's next, are you going to tell me that people who live in successful cities are happier than those in decaying ones?

Actually, I have sometimes done what I think is my best work, in toxic work places. It was fleeting, but the mood at the time was "this place sucks, but boy, am I getting it on".

Overall I agree there is a pope/catholic tree/forest moment here, but this is bell-curve overlap venn diagram stuff, the outliers are amusing, but not informative of the trend.

tl;dr slacker finds life in toxic company can be fulfilling.

Re: Employee happiness and business success are linked

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Amazon seems to be doing alright regardless.

I know a lot of engineers that work for Amazon that are happy. Warehouse workers on the other hand...

Warehouse work sucks. Amazon's warehouse work is above average for warehouse work.

Re: Employee happiness and business success are linked

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They did look at causation: "the authors cite studies of changes within individual firms and organisations which seem to show that improvements in employee morale precede gains in productivity, rather than the other way round." Many of us understand the other causation arrow (corporate unsuccess leads to unhappiness!)

In some cases corporate unsuccess leeds to happiness. I've seen this in my case once. And hope that I'll not need to see this again.
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