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You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

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Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

#11
Disagree. Every system has problems. Look at what happened with Zoom — unrestricted access to your entire user account on MacOS, for them to do whatever they want. Normal people should not have to even think about a virus or malware scanner on their system.

I like where Apple is going and I like the iOS model. Most of all, I know that people like my parents will be better protected from malware and spyware and crypto extortion.

Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

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I am happy buying stuff from the iOS store. It's convenient, quick and easy. No objection as an end user.

Wouldn't you be happier if prices were 25% lower? Maybe you're not objecting because you don't know how much better the alternative could be?

Prices on the iOS AppStore are already almost unsustainably low.

Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

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I am happy buying stuff from the iOS store. It's convenient, quick and easy. No objection as an end user.

Wouldn't you be happier if prices were 25% lower? Maybe you're not objecting because you don't know how much better the alternative could be?

if the alternative is a malware-infested google play store where every second app phones home 900 times a day or whatever, i think i'll pass.

I'm making my iOS walled garden choice with open eyes.

I'm happy to sideload apps if they're worth it; so far the only one i found that I cared enough about to do this with was Blink, and i wound up buying it on the app store afterwards so the developers could get their cut.

Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

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I am happy buying stuff from the iOS store. It's convenient, quick and easy. No objection as an end user.

Wouldn't you be happier if prices were 25% lower? Maybe you're not objecting because you don't know how much better the alternative could be?

I’m not objecting because I know the alternative of not using a walled garden (Windows and Android) and I have wasted too much of my life dealing with its issues. I’d pay 25% more if I had to because the time it has saved me and my family is priceless.

Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

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I am happy buying stuff from the iOS store. It's convenient, quick and easy. No objection as an end user.

Wouldn't you be happier if prices were 25% lower? Maybe you're not objecting because you don't know how much better the alternative could be?

The user will never get the benefit of savings up the chain. That's not going to happen so don't act like it's an option.

Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

#16
App Store cash is often significantly discounted. You can often buy $100 iTunes cards for $83 at Costco, for instance. This spurs on a lot of spend on the platform given that it becomes a staple gift choice for a lot of younger relatives.

Further this is all very hand-wavy about abuse without mentioning the benefits that very same platform provides. It makes the whole discussion around it completely specious because it's inventing a victimization.

Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

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I am happy buying stuff from the iOS store. It's convenient, quick and easy. No objection as an end user.

Great! Let the iOS App Store compete in the free market on its own merits. I suspect it will do quite well—it's installed on all phones by default, and consumers trust it (for good reason).

The App Store should not be the only way to get software on an iPhone, sans literally hacking the device.

Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

#18
Even if Apple takes 30%, that’s still 70% that the app developer wouldn’t have if the App store didn’t exist. Without the App Store we would still depend on publishers to put us into stores, ask any author how that worked out for them.

Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

#19
As an end user I approve of the walled garden. I don't mind the limitations on other forms of payment. I think it helps prevent fraud and insecure transactions, and I like the freedom and ease of use that comes with knowing that apps on the ios store went through a fairly substantial review process.

As a developer (though it has been a few years since I wrote code for mobile) Apple's tools, documentation and libraries were so much better than Google's, though that may say more about Google than Apple. And I approve of app store revenue supporting those tools.

But 30% is really, really high. I don't work for Apple, or Google for that matter, so I have no insight into what portion of the money goes to the services mentioned above, but it seems to me that even 20% would be pretty hard to swallow, and 30% seems unreasonable.

I would love to hear from someone with actual knowledge of this how much of that app store revenue is profit.

Re: You’re Paying into a Broken System Whenever You Buy Something on iOS

#20
He is complaining about payments in Apple Store using annoyingly paywalled medium.

As an iOS Developer I think that's 30% cut is fair and it works. Just look at sales numbers on iOS vs Android. Most of sales comes from iOS. As a user I hate then devs decide to skip MacOS store. For me it means I have to use some 3rd party payment and license management solution so they can save some money.

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