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Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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This theory was one of the most interesting ideas in Sapiens , take a look at a model of what other great apes look like, if so many types of dog can interbreed why wouldn't these great apes?

This is misleading. Superficial physical appearance isn't always a good indicator of genetic similarity or sexual compatibility.

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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Then they aren't extinct.

Yes and no, there's a very blurry line as to when a creature can be called one species and has evolved to another. It's sort of like, you can't state the exact day when a creature has started their "adult" stage of life (including humans). We have arbitrary days, like 18 years old. But from a biological stand point, it's blurry when a person is an "adult".

So how much DNA of a species, in another, means it's "that" species. Or is it brand new and different? I mean, technically, we're more related to fungi than we are plants, by quite a bit. But it's easy to differentiate humans from fungi. Still, we're related, relatively speaking compared to plants. Does that make us fungi? Obviously that's bat shit absurd. But just because a lot of homo sapiens have 1%-3% neanderthal in them, that doesn't make them neanderthal. I don't think neanderthals should be taken off the extinction list. The same, we share 85%-92% of dna with mice (this number fluctuates depending on sources). Does that make us mice?

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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If we interbred with them, how are they actually species? It seems more to me you're talking more about racial or breed differences akin to breeds of dogs if two species actually successfuly had viable offspring in the wild.

You're under the assumption that the current taxonomy structure has hard defined rules that nature follows because we humans told it to. Similar genus (homo is the genus) can interbreed even if they differ by species. But from what I understand, not all genus (gensuses? gensi?(I was educated that it's genera from a commentor)) follow that trait. Most can, some can't.

Hell, there's a movement to ditch the current taxonomy structure and pick one of 2 other kinds that seem to follow evolution better than what we have right now.

Wasn't subfamily or tribe originally called race back in the day? I could have sworn when I was in school it was called race. But they changed it at some point without sending me a memo.

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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post #15
post #3

If we interbred with them, how are they actually species? It seems more to me you're talking more about racial or breed differences akin to breeds of dogs if two species actually successfuly had viable offspring in the wild.

You're under the assumption that the current taxonomy structure has hard defined rules that nature follows because we humans told it to. Similar genus (homo is the genus) can interbreed even if they differ by species. But from what I understand, not all genus (gensuses? gensi?(I was educated that it's genera from a commentor)) follow that trait. Most can, some can't. Hell, there's a movement to ditch the current taxo…

It's genera, for future reference.

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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Hi everyone, just letting you all know, it's no surprise that modern homo sapiens ancestors bumped uglies with other species in the genus of homo back in the day. The enlightening part of this article is there are some unknown species in homo that we have genetic evidence of, but no fossil record. The thing you should be fascinated by, there were many contemporary relatives to homo sapiens that could have been as much or somewhat as intelligent. But they all disappeared and we are all that's left. We either killed them all or snoo-snooed them out of existence because homo sapiens seemed to have spawned faster and had more offspring in comparison.

So, please stop relating this to dogs fucking or being surprised that different species can tango under moonlight. Please stop.

Yes, different species, of different genders, of the same genus can warm up at night and spawn little hellions 7-9ish months later.

There's plenty of evidence that these other homo species were sophisticated, like the neanderthal. As much, if not more, that ancient homo sapiens (at the time).

Does that make a new species? Maybe. Current taxonomy guidelines are not perfect. There are other taxonomy systems out there that would spell this out, just not considered the universal standard we all know today. The problem is, how do you draw sharp lines in a blurry distinction without just creating a new "species" for every sexual adventurous encounter that results in a screaming child.

At the end, this article was cool and we should all be excited over this.

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're under the assumption that the current taxonomy structure has hard defined rules that nature follows because we humans told it to. Similar genus (homo is the genus) can interbreed even if they differ by species. But from what I understand, not all genus (gensuses? gensi?(I was educated that it's genera from a commentor)) follow that trait. Most can, some can't. Hell, there's a movement to ditch the current taxo…

It's genera , for future reference.

I raise my beer to you.

Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

2.3% Neanderthal Pride checking in!

Women love the brow ridge.

"Brow bros forever!"

Of course, that's an outdated stereotype, and women have as much 'thal DNA!

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