I think the real question is: can equivalent money to logging/beef be made from tropical forests? If we can come up with an answer to that, maybe we can revert this trend.
Amazon deforestation accelerating to unrecoverable 'tipping point'
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Re: Amazon deforestation accelerating to unrecoverable 'tipping point'
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only real solution will be for wealthy nations paying Brazil to not exploit their natural resources, which seems like a very very high ask for all parties involved. Otherwise we'll see the continued destruction for at least another 30-40 years until there's a global demographic peak. We're also going to see the destruction of the Canadian Boreal forest as temperatures rise makes such land viable for industrial fa…
You can donate to charities that directly purchase rainforest. Rainforesttrust.org is one. They can purchase an acre of land for around 10 dollars. Right now the main issue is that last year they only received 15 million in donations. Not nearly enough to stop the problem.
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#13How much money is made from the farmland from deforested regions... how much from the lumber and how much from the reuse of the land? How many countries are trading with Brazil for consuming those goods? It's a big problem, but without some input from trade partners globally and/or other support, I'm not sure what the solution really is. Also, not just in Brazil, but other areas with grasslands that have seen deserti…
The money is not made on the lumber, but on agriculture. I recently read that, most of the deforested regions are used for low-density cattle (0.5 cow / hectare), which gets transformed into beef, mainly for export.
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#14How much money is made from the farmland from deforested regions... how much from the lumber and how much from the reuse of the land? How many countries are trading with Brazil for consuming those goods? It's a big problem, but without some input from trade partners globally and/or other support, I'm not sure what the solution really is. Also, not just in Brazil, but other areas with grasslands that have seen deserti…
Less people on planet Earth consuming like there is no tommorow
Re: Amazon deforestation accelerating to unrecoverable 'tipping point'
#15Until we find an economic solution, this trend will just continue. Unfortunately, people only want to profit at all costs and governments usually want to be enablers of that, so the economy grows and they can have more votes in the next election. I think the real question is: can equivalent money to logging/beef be made from tropical forests? If we can come up with an answer to that, maybe we can revert this trend.
Re: Amazon deforestation accelerating to unrecoverable 'tipping point'
#16What is a “tipping point” in this context? The article doesn’t say.
How does the overall size of a forest affect its ability to re-expand? Wouldn’t this happen at the edges once those are no longer maintained, regardless of the overall size?
Does “unrecoverable” mean “via natural processes”? Wouldn’t it be possible for human intervention to reforest?
Thx.
Re: Amazon deforestation accelerating to unrecoverable 'tipping point'
#17Until we find an economic solution, this trend will just continue. Unfortunately, people only want to profit at all costs and governments usually want to be enablers of that, so the economy grows and they can have more votes in the next election. I think the real question is: can equivalent money to logging/beef be made from tropical forests? If we can come up with an answer to that, maybe we can revert this trend.
Stop eating meat could be one of answers.
Re: Amazon deforestation accelerating to unrecoverable 'tipping point'
#18How much money is made from the farmland from deforested regions... how much from the lumber and how much from the reuse of the land? How many countries are trading with Brazil for consuming those goods? It's a big problem, but without some input from trade partners globally and/or other support, I'm not sure what the solution really is. Also, not just in Brazil, but other areas with grasslands that have seen deserti…
The money is not made on the lumber, but on agriculture. I recently read that, most of the deforested regions are used for low-density cattle (0.5 cow / hectare), which gets transformed into beef, mainly for export.
As to another comment on going vegan, it's just not an option for me... that doesn't mean I don't want more responsible means of farming.
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#20Until we find an economic solution, this trend will just continue. Unfortunately, people only want to profit at all costs and governments usually want to be enablers of that, so the economy grows and they can have more votes in the next election. I think the real question is: can equivalent money to logging/beef be made from tropical forests? If we can come up with an answer to that, maybe we can revert this trend.
Stop eating meat could be one of answers.
Another one is "stop buying things you don't really need".
But yeah, good luck convincing people to get behind that.