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I would rather have an Emacs that offers fewer choices but looks good out of the box. Example: the software supplied by Apple with a Mac does not have any themes except for the choice between Blue (colorful) and Graphite (subdued) in the Appearance system preference pane. OTOH, I regularly have to wait for the software supplied by Apple and I almost never wait for Emacs.
I would rather have an Emacs that offers fewer choices but looks good out of the box. Example: the software supplied by Apple with a Mac does not have any themes except for the choice between Blue (colorful) and Graphite (subdued) in the Appearance system preference pane. OTOH, I regularly have to wait for the software supplied by Apple and I almost never wait for Emacs.
Both of which I find strikingly unattractive. Overall, I find the OSX UI annoying to use, and the relatively lack of choices in things doesn't help.
I like the idea of a useful out-of-the-box set of defaults, but that should prevent offering users options to tweak to their hearts' content.
Use -nw and get your terminal's theme for free!
Now clickong on my Emacs icon on the desktop will open a new gnome-terminal that runs an Emacs inside screen -- it looks pretty much the same as it did before, but I can access and take over my current session remotely from home. As a matter of fact, the shortcut will actually first check if there's a detached screen session that runs emacs and ask me in a small dialog window if I want to re-attach to that session or start a new window.
Makes me happy.
Sorry if that post is of no interest at all to anyone else on HN but me...
Interesting timing: just two days ago, I spent a good part of my afternoon making "emacs -nw" running inside GNU screen to look more or less exactly the way my standard windowed Emacs looks. That included mostly fiddling with terminal settings and finding colors that are supported by the terminal and resemble my original choices (and some other tweaking here and there). Now clickong on my Emacs icon on the desktop wi…
I would rather have an Emacs that offers fewer choices but looks good out of the box. Example: the software supplied by Apple with a Mac does not have any themes except for the choice between Blue (colorful) and Graphite (subdued) in the Appearance system preference pane. OTOH, I regularly have to wait for the software supplied by Apple and I almost never wait for Emacs.
By waiting, do you mean wait for the release, or wait because the software is busy doing something?
(Emacs is single-threaded, but so is a Unix shell.)
Interesting timing: just two days ago, I spent a good part of my afternoon making "emacs -nw" running inside GNU screen to look more or less exactly the way my standard windowed Emacs looks. That included mostly fiddling with terminal settings and finding colors that are supported by the terminal and resemble my original choices (and some other tweaking here and there). Now clickong on my Emacs icon on the desktop wi…
;; Launch emacs
(defcommand emacs () ()
(run-or-raise
"urxvt -title emacs -e screen -U -dRR -S emacs -c ~/.screenrc.emacs"
'(:title "emacs" :instance "urxvt" :class "URxvt")))
Some of the thing you might want to consider when doing "emacs -nw"
- Make sure your TERM is exported appropriatly.
Otherwise you may end up with less colors (M-x list-colors-display).
Screen fiddles with TERM and emacs may end up supporting less colors.
- Copy/Paste between regular X apps and the emacs will not work.
You would need to use something like "xsel". See here [1]
- Some of the keys may not work as expected. This will be
apparent especially when using orgmode. You may want to
remap them appropriately
[1] http://hugoheden.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/copypaste-with-ema...