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How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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Re: How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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Drug traffickers use the same technique as receipts for drug drops: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20484197

Circular reference detected

That always happens on HN. Someone linking to interesting content in threads is a common way for them to hit the front page later.

Re: How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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There’s nothing cryptographic about this. It’s a central authority that either says “yes it’s real” or not. The system revolves around trust in that central authority. Everyone can easily fake a certificate which cannot be independently falsified without asking that central authority, who will be more likely to check their books than to do anything related to the actual certificate.

Does cryptographic imply decentralized?

Cryptographic implies math is used, which doesn't seem to be the case here.

Re: How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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I'm missing something here.

Anyone can produce a torn-in-half "Di-faced" fake banknote with Lady Diana's face on it, with a handwritten ID number across the bill.

Hell, I'll validate your Banksy pieces for £64.

Where's the authenticity coming from, and whats even the point of the torn note?

Re: How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does cryptographic imply decentralized?

No, but I think you'll agree that saying tears in a piece of paper "cryptography" is a stretch. It's not cryptography in the same way that a stamp or wax seal isn't cryptography, unless your definition of cryptography is "any method to protect the confidentiality and integrity of a document".

Do you consider ThreeBallot to be an example of cryptography? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThreeBallot

Re: How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does cryptographic imply decentralized?

Cryptographic implies math is used, which doesn't seem to be the case here.

That’s a rather restrictive definition of cryptography, don’t you think?

Re: How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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post #4

There’s nothing cryptographic about this. It’s a central authority that either says “yes it’s real” or not. The system revolves around trust in that central authority. Everyone can easily fake a certificate which cannot be independently falsified without asking that central authority, who will be more likely to check their books than to do anything related to the actual certificate.

This is the second time in a couple weeks where I've seen a headline try to take a "crypto" angle for something ridiculously simple. There was another article touting drug cartels using "dollar bill serial numbers as random keys", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20484197, which was wrong - the keys weren't random, they were just unique and difficult to fake.

I get the sense, with the general failure of blockchain to live up to its hype beyond Bitcoin, that we'll see a lot of "crypto-" this and that nonsense, similar to how everything was "e-" this and that in 2000.

Re: How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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I'm missing something here. Anyone can produce a torn-in-half "Di-faced" fake banknote with Lady Diana's face on it, with a handwritten ID number across the bill. Hell, I'll validate your Banksy pieces for £64. Where's the authenticity coming from, and whats even the point of the torn note?

The point of the torn note is (as far as I understood) that the authenticator keeps the other half. So anyone can contact the authenticator and ask them if they have a counterpiece for any given note.

I don't see how this prevents someone with visual access to the note and the painting from creating a fake though. (The article mentions the tear is hard to reproduce but I doubt that.)

Additionally I don't see how this prevents anyone from distributing a valid note with a fake or wrong painting.

Re: How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does cryptographic imply decentralized?

Cryptographic implies math is used, which doesn't seem to be the case here.

The word is much older than that.

> 1650s, "art of writing in secret characters"

https://www.etymonline.com/word/cryptography

Re: How Banksy Authenticates His Work

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I'm missing something here. Anyone can produce a torn-in-half "Di-faced" fake banknote with Lady Diana's face on it, with a handwritten ID number across the bill. Hell, I'll validate your Banksy pieces for £64. Where's the authenticity coming from, and whats even the point of the torn note?

The point of the torn note is (as far as I understood) that the authenticator keeps the other half. So anyone can contact the authenticator and ask them if they have a counterpiece for any given note. I don't see how this prevents someone with visual access to the note and the painting from creating a fake though. (The article mentions the tear is hard to reproduce but I doubt that.) Additionally I don't see how this…

They’d have o create a precisely matching tear.
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