pixar's up of space companies. launches would be a lot more quiet.
Haha maybe a new tagline for them ;)
Building a Stratospheric Balloon Launch Company with Zero 2 Infinity
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Re: Building a Stratospheric Balloon Launch Company with Zero 2 Infinity
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ballon launches are unlikely to be economically viable. But, what I find amusing is simply by going up you gain a little velocity from earth’s rotation via atmospheric drag. It’s kind of the opposite of everywhere else in aerospace engineering.
Out of curiosity, what do you think will make then not viable economically? There's a lot of advantages they have compared to rockets, particularly for smallsats.
That whole partial sum taken to infinity thing. You’re trunking off not enough of it fast enough with a balloon. Ie balloon ballast isn’t as efficient in lift as burning actual fuel. Just my off the top of my head with little knowledge thoughts though.
Sure seems viable without thinking it through at first! But I think the scale of space travel just makes it easy for intuition and first impressions to be off.
Re: Building a Stratospheric Balloon Launch Company with Zero 2 Infinity
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ballon launches are unlikely to be economically viable. But, what I find amusing is simply by going up you gain a little velocity from earth’s rotation via atmospheric drag. It’s kind of the opposite of everywhere else in aerospace engineering.
Out of curiosity, what do you think will make then not viable economically? There's a lot of advantages they have compared to rockets, particularly for smallsats.
You don’t get to actually save on the expensive bits of rockets.
Within a small rounding error you need just as many and just as large rocket engines. Sure, you save a little fuel, but that’s the cheap bit. Structurally you need to handle dangling from the balloon, which means your cargo capacity is about the same size and possibly worse.
On top of that you need to both pay for the balloon and extra R&D for a complex system. If everything worked perfectly you might see a small savings per launch except the market is tiny so just breaking even on R&D is difficult. On top of that the more complex launches mean more can go wrong, meaning higher insurance costs.
Finally this is not the 80’s. Compare it to SpaceX’s reusable first stage that gives not just altitude but also velocity. Something like that is a huge advantage reducing the number of expensive bits needed to manufacture.
PS: As to dangling. When you fuel a rocket on the launch pad all the stages sit on top of each other. This means you can build a rocket that would break if sitting on it’s side, because all the forces are down before and after the engine fires.
Re: Building a Stratospheric Balloon Launch Company with Zero 2 Infinity
#14That space vehicle they show in their mockups, the conical capsule with 6 engines, can't possibly have enough delta-v for an orbital injection. For one, not enough fuel to run all those engines for a long enough time. Any orbital launch must end up with the payload going 4.5 km/s at LEO (about 200 km altitude). For a classic rocket launcher, this happens after about 450 seconds. See for example the Falcon 9 velocity…
They don’t care as long as they will keep receiving checks from European taxpayers. Keep the dream alive and the fraud spinning.