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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by viraptor »

smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Is GCP blocking a result of the current sanctions on Iran? (ie. we can't differentiate what you provide so we'll cut everything) Or some other reason?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by m0zg »

steve19 wrote: post #4

"People are dying due to absence of medicines. People are starving. The economy system is falling apart and the politicians and their children are all abroad! None of them have any sense about what is going on the streets." That is not what we (the West) are hearing in mainstream media. Edit: I may well be wrong on this as others have pointed out.

That's kind of by design. What other effect do you think the total economic embargo would have? It's not like they're some super advanced country that's independent of anybody else for tech.

Good (for the US) news is, it's working. They're getting ready to negotiate, hence the UK tanker intercepts etc. Weak negotiating position, need bargaining chips. I kind of agree with Lindsey Graham: if you just want nuclear power, there's no need whatsoever to enrich your own uranium. You can buy fuel for reactors from the enriching nations, no problem. I'm sure, given the situation, you could even negotiate the price down to nearly nothing, as well.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by smnrchrds »

viraptor wrote: post #11
smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Is GCP blocking a result of the current sanctions on Iran? (ie. we can't differentiate what you provide so we'll cut everything) Or some other reason?

It's because of sanctions, but it's not recent. I think GCP had always blocked Iran, but I'm not sure.

In any case, Azure and AWS are complying with the same sanctions without a blanket ban. After all, they are American companies as well. Azure and AWS don't allow customers from Iran to purchase hosting services, but don't block access to all sites hosted on their platforms, and it seems that this is enough for US regulators to not consider them in violation of sanctions. I imagine Google has taken an extreme "better safe than sorry" approach which other players have fortunately decided not to copy.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

steve19 wrote: post #4

"People are dying due to absence of medicines. People are starving. The economy system is falling apart and the politicians and their children are all abroad! None of them have any sense about what is going on the streets." That is not what we (the West) are hearing in mainstream media. Edit: I may well be wrong on this as others have pointed out.

I dont understand this type of reply where just because a specific subtopic of a news story isnt being screamed just as loudly as every other top breaking headline, its the western media being silent on the issue. Plenty of discussion has been had on mainstream media about the effects and.effectiveness of sanctions on basic goods

https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-sanctions-hit-iran-r...

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/17/inflation-rampant-in-tehran-...?

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/sanctions-t...

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/sanctions-t...

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by h0l0cube »

m0zg wrote: post #12
steve19 wrote: post #4

"People are dying due to absence of medicines. People are starving. The economy system is falling apart and the politicians and their children are all abroad! None of them have any sense about what is going on the streets." That is not what we (the West) are hearing in mainstream media. Edit: I may well be wrong on this as others have pointed out.

That's kind of by design. What other effect do you think the total economic embargo would have? It's not like they're some super advanced country that's independent of anybody else for tech. Good (for the US) news is, it's working. They're getting ready to negotiate, hence the UK tanker intercepts etc. Weak negotiating position, need bargaining chips. I kind of agree with Lindsey Graham: if you just want nuclear powe…

> it's working

The last deal for de-nuclearization already worked, but it was inexplicably terminated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by keithnz »

smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

I'm interested in knowning more about this. Not a lot of information about it, I found this article from 2018... https://news.sky.com/story/google-faces-calls-to-lift-anti-c...

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by m0zg »

h0l0cube wrote: post #16
m0zg wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's kind of by design. What other effect do you think the total economic embargo would have? It's not like they're some super advanced country that's independent of anybody else for tech. Good (for the US) news is, it's working. They're getting ready to negotiate, hence the UK tanker intercepts etc. Weak negotiating position, need bargaining chips. I kind of agree with Lindsey Graham: if you just want nuclear powe…

> it's working The last deal for de-nuclearization already worked, but it was inexplicably terminated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework

It's not "denuclearization" if you continue to enrich, retain all nuclear infrastructure, and if the deal expires after a few years. Parts of the "deal" were expected to expire as soon as in 2026.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by skybrian »

m0zg wrote: post #12
steve19 wrote: post #4

"People are dying due to absence of medicines. People are starving. The economy system is falling apart and the politicians and their children are all abroad! None of them have any sense about what is going on the streets." That is not what we (the West) are hearing in mainstream media. Edit: I may well be wrong on this as others have pointed out.

That's kind of by design. What other effect do you think the total economic embargo would have? It's not like they're some super advanced country that's independent of anybody else for tech. Good (for the US) news is, it's working. They're getting ready to negotiate, hence the UK tanker intercepts etc. Weak negotiating position, need bargaining chips. I kind of agree with Lindsey Graham: if you just want nuclear powe…

Well, it's sort of good news in the sense that, if the U.S. chose to negotiate, Iran still wants a deal, and we might end up with the same deal as before?

Or in other words, this was all unnecessary, but some of the damage caused by abandoning a done deal might be reversible.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by oh_sigh »

steve19 wrote: post #4

"People are dying due to absence of medicines. People are starving. The economy system is falling apart and the politicians and their children are all abroad! None of them have any sense about what is going on the streets." That is not what we (the West) are hearing in mainstream media. Edit: I may well be wrong on this as others have pointed out.

Can American reporters even go on the ground in Iran without a government chaperone?
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