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China scrambles to stem manufacturing exodus as companies leave

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Re: China scrambles to stem manufacturing exodus as companies leave

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I would rather see companies leave because of the concentration camps

This has become absolute reflex and is therefore off topic here. So has the "but Saudi Arabia" response.

This is not a site for incessant repetition. If that's what you guys want to do, there are other places on the internet to do it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: China scrambles to stem manufacturing exodus as companies leave

#13

Out of curiosity, how much of this is due to import tarifs and how much due to rising wages?

It feels like a lot of it is due to the publicity around the tariffs.

The cost alone isn’t enough to make corps shift, but assuring the stock market that the Corp is robust against continued tariffs and possible unrest appears to be worthwhile.

There seems to be some combined anti-China, pro-anywhere-else marketing involved as well.

Re: China scrambles to stem manufacturing exodus as companies leave

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be specific. There are about three dozen people being held in Guantanamo. A total of around 780 people were detained in total by the US military over a decade and a half. Of those 780, around 730 were let go. Nearly all of the detainees were granted representation and visitation rights, along with Guantanamo itself being subject to public observation & access by human rights groups. The US Supreme Court ruled t…

Are you so sure that is what China is doing? That the program is not a result of a decade of yearly terrorist attacks? That China is trying to de-radicalize extremists and integrate them into modern society? I do agree that a China needs to be more open and allow UN inspectors.

So jailing an ethnic minority based on the possibility that they might commit a crime in the future and forcing them to go through brainwashing (sorry, reeducation) programs is somehow OK because there are a few terrorists? No amount of rationalization is going to make that sound OK.

Re: China scrambles to stem manufacturing exodus as companies leave

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post #11

I would rather see companies leave because of the concentration camps

This has become absolute reflex and is therefore off topic here. So has the "but Saudi Arabia" response. This is not a site for incessant repetition. If that's what you guys want to do, there are other places on the internet to do it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: China scrambles to stem manufacturing exodus as companies leave

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Out of curiosity, how much of this is due to import tarifs and how much due to rising wages?

It feels like a lot of it is due to the publicity around the tariffs. The cost alone isn’t enough to make corps shift, but assuring the stock market that the Corp is robust against continued tariffs and possible unrest appears to be worthwhile. There seems to be some combined anti-China, pro-anywhere-else marketing involved as well.

But hasn't there been talk of moving from China to India/Vietnam for some years now?

Did any of that actually happen or was it just talk until now?

Re: China scrambles to stem manufacturing exodus as companies leave

#19
Nikkei and Bloomberg seem to have an ideological axe to grind. From someone who's on the ground here, China's manufacturing base is shifting up the value chain pretty rapidly, which naturally shifts its relative attractiveness to foreign companies as a source of contract manufacturing.

Re: China scrambles to stem manufacturing exodus as companies leave

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels like a lot of it is due to the publicity around the tariffs. The cost alone isn’t enough to make corps shift, but assuring the stock market that the Corp is robust against continued tariffs and possible unrest appears to be worthwhile. There seems to be some combined anti-China, pro-anywhere-else marketing involved as well.

But hasn't there been talk of moving from China to India/Vietnam for some years now? Did any of that actually happen or was it just talk until now?

A lot of countries including Nintendo have moved and are moving to "Southeast Asia".. Okay so sue me for not reading the article first; Nintendo is mentioned. Giant is another. Not sure how widespread it is but it's real.
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