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Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Post by mojuba »

bbx wrote: post #7

Can't really agree with the Magic Mouse 2 being a "miss". I understand the controversy with the charging port being under the mouse, but it's done on purpose: Apple wants to prevent users from leaving the mouse connected with a USB cable all the time. Maybe there was a better solution to this issue, but the truth is that it's not actually an issue and not a blunder either. I've had this mouse for years and simply rec…

The problem with belly-up charging is that it's ridiculous quite literally. Maybe usable, but ridiculous, that is all.

I think a docking/charging station for the mouse would be more elegant and nice to have, though more expensive too of course.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Post by colmvp »

The G4 Cube had issues but I honestly liked it as an experimental design from a well-known computer brand. It was a breath of fresh air among the monotonous beige or gray towers of the time. And it wasn't the only G4 computer you could get, as you could've bought the tower (which I ended up doing at the time).

For me, the biggest miss is the touch bar and butterfly keyboards. Those single-handily prevented me from upgrading from my 2012 Retina MBP.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Post by gyrccc »

The last paragraph for Magic Mouse 2 seems a bit forced. This mouse has not garnered the same level of controversy as the other products in this article.

I've personally found it more enjoyable and ergonomic than my Logitech M705 and Microsoft Sculpt. It's not inherently more ergonomic but the additional functionality enabled by multitouch means I don't have to move the mouse as much (on macOS at lease), which vastly improves usability.

The charging port is not in the most functional location, but it's a worthwhile tradeoff IMHO. If we assume Apple doesn't want to change the shape of the mouse, the only alternative location is on the side of the mouse, which makes the mouse asymmetrical and would probably give Jony Ive a fit.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Post by optimuspaul »

sambeau wrote: post #6

I feel the need to say this every time the 'puck mouse' comes up: I loved mine. If you use your fingers to move a mouse, rather than your hand (like I do) then it was totally fine (and I found I could move it very exactly for fine control when using a design package). I never got it the wrong way around, never had any other problems people complain about and I loved the weight of it and used to chuck it around my des…

I feel the same way. I loved that mouse, I was sad the day mine finally gave out.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Post by morley »

delish wrote: post #2

"Hits" and "misses" should be thought of differently. Hits sell zillions and make people happy. Misses like the Apple Hi-Fi sell poorly because nobody wants them. So in the aggregate, there's far more good done when you have a hit, than bad done when you have a miss[0]. [0] Huge disclaimer: The category "miss" is higher dimensioned than "hit." Misses like the butterfly keyboard are different than the Hi-Fi, because i…

Also: I've noticed anecdotally that a lot of people, myself included, make decisions to reduce their misses, where it's usually better to maximize your hits.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Post by glvn »

bbx wrote: post #7

Can't really agree with the Magic Mouse 2 being a "miss". I understand the controversy with the charging port being under the mouse, but it's done on purpose: Apple wants to prevent users from leaving the mouse connected with a USB cable all the time. Maybe there was a better solution to this issue, but the truth is that it's not actually an issue and not a blunder either. I've had this mouse for years and simply rec…

Part of the reason the Magic Mouse was a miss in my mind was that the Magic Trackpad was so much better. For how awkward the magic mouse was at first, the magic trackpad felt natural at first touch.

I remember getting one at work, this was the only time I liked a product at work so much that I immediately picked one up before coming home.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Post by mcot2 »

bbx wrote: post #7

Can't really agree with the Magic Mouse 2 being a "miss". I understand the controversy with the charging port being under the mouse, but it's done on purpose: Apple wants to prevent users from leaving the mouse connected with a USB cable all the time. Maybe there was a better solution to this issue, but the truth is that it's not actually an issue and not a blunder either. I've had this mouse for years and simply rec…

Ergonomically it is a disaster. I can’t think of a single product that embodies design over function more than this mouse.

All of Apples mouse designs have been absolute train wreaks since the horrible “puck” mouse on the original iMac.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Post by formercoder »

bbx wrote: post #7

Can't really agree with the Magic Mouse 2 being a "miss". I understand the controversy with the charging port being under the mouse, but it's done on purpose: Apple wants to prevent users from leaving the mouse connected with a USB cable all the time. Maybe there was a better solution to this issue, but the truth is that it's not actually an issue and not a blunder either. I've had this mouse for years and simply rec…

Having switched to PC recently one of the few things I miss is the amazing magic mouse / mac drivers combo.

Re: Jony Ive: 8 hits and 8 misses from 20 years at Apple

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Post by optimuspaul »

if those are his misses then I'd say he did a fantastic job. half of those I'd say weren't even misses. Loved the G4 cube, the hockey puck mouse, 3D Touch, and my Magic Mouse 2. But nothing gives me more anxiety than my AirPods, they always feel like they are falling out and occasionally do.
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