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To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

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Re: To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

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I don’t see any mention in this article of what seems like the most obvious way to split up Google, separating their search and ad businesses. (Edit to add: although maybe the effect would end up being similar, if API users serve their own ads but without access to Google’s ad infrastructure.) That obviously wouldn’t be a simple job, of course, and maybe there are some interesting reasons why it wouldn’t work well.

Same results different entities.

Outlaw ad tracking in some way.

Re: To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

#12

I don’t see any mention in this article of what seems like the most obvious way to split up Google, separating their search and ad businesses. (Edit to add: although maybe the effect would end up being similar, if API users serve their own ads but without access to Google’s ad infrastructure.) That obviously wouldn’t be a simple job, of course, and maybe there are some interesting reasons why it wouldn’t work well.

Why not both?

Re: To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

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post #11

I don’t see any mention in this article of what seems like the most obvious way to split up Google, separating their search and ad businesses. (Edit to add: although maybe the effect would end up being similar, if API users serve their own ads but without access to Google’s ad infrastructure.) That obviously wouldn’t be a simple job, of course, and maybe there are some interesting reasons why it wouldn’t work well.

Same results different entities. Outlaw ad tracking in some way.

But it minimizes conflict of interest.

Re: To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

#14

I don’t want to break Google’s monopoly on search. Google’s search is fantastic. It’s their advertising business knowing too much about me I care about.

> Google’s search is fantastic

The author's proposal, making Google's index publicly accessible, would leave Google search intact. Google's algorithm would presumably remain proprietary.

For people who like Google today, nothing would change. For people for whom Google falls short, there would be new options. Looks like a clear win-win for consumers.

Re: To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

#15

If DuckDuckGo can change their stupid name they will gain market share overnight.

Many just call them duck or ddg now. They bought duck.com

It might have been for free, it's unclear they bought it

https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/12/18137369/duckduckgo-duck...

Re: To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

#16

I don’t want to break Google’s monopoly on search. Google’s search is fantastic. It’s their advertising business knowing too much about me I care about.

And really, that seems like a good cutpoint to me. Search might be a natural monopoly. But advertising sure isn't. A lot of their ad stuff came via acquisition; what was bought can be spun off or sold again.

Re: To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

#17

I don’t see any mention in this article of what seems like the most obvious way to split up Google, separating their search and ad businesses. (Edit to add: although maybe the effect would end up being similar, if API users serve their own ads but without access to Google’s ad infrastructure.) That obviously wouldn’t be a simple job, of course, and maybe there are some interesting reasons why it wouldn’t work well.

> what seems like the most obvious way to split up Google, separating their search and ad businesses

Given the complexity of (a) Google's search and ad integrations and (b) the adtech landscape as a whole, this would be difficult to do legislatively. That leaves settlement with the DoJ, a costly and time-consuming path.

The author's suggestion is not exclusive against a break-up of Google. Its moderation and basis in precedent, however, make it something multiple agencies--not just the DoJ--could implement. Including Congress.

Re: To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

#19

If DuckDuckGo can change their stupid name they will gain market share overnight.

Because “Google” was a sensible name?

True but DuckDuckGo doesn’t roll off the tongue as easily. If they named it “Poodle” it’d probably get more traction as silly as it seems.

Re: To Break Google’s Monopoly on Search, Make Its Index Public

#20

If DuckDuckGo can change their stupid name they will gain market share overnight.

Many just call them duck or ddg now. They bought duck.com

The verb form "to duck" would be sublime. For instance "I ducked this guy I met".
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