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Re: Unemployed Fishing

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In one paragraph: >85 percent of workers worldwide hate their jobs >Anything that restores hope becomes worth the exercise. In other words: Many may hate their livelihoods, but liberation can be scary. Personally, I was once of the benefit of having mediocre tech skills and an employer who paid ridiculously well for them. But when I started having problems with stalking, break-ins and intentional ill will, they told…

If you don't have the means, it's not really "liberation". We are only nominally "free". You have to pay real estate taxes even if you do absolutely nothing, never get out of the house, and don't use any infrastructure or services. And if you don't, you'll very quickly find yourself under the bridge. My fantasy (which my wife doesn't share) is to one day find a place so deep in the boonies that no government official…

I wonder if it's part of the social contract that everything society provided to get you here, one of the many payments is you have to stick around and be part of society for the next young you.

I'm thinking about: what would happen if droves of people fled into the forest to live. Could society function without them? How many?

Re: Unemployed Fishing

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Fishing is such a relief from the world, it really is. I've never fully understood why it of all things had such a powerful draw and effect. As a kid it kept me away from the things that tend to trouble you as a kid. Deep in the woods on a river bank, digging through the stones to see what's hatching, tying knots, whittling while your bobber whirls in an eddy. It's an escape. As an adult I've turned to spearfishing a…

I had a couple of sudden bouts of unexpected unemployment (altho it didn't take me long to find new work) & I (mostly) managed to see it as temporary vacation.

Of course I had the advantage of earning enough that I was able to live off of unemployment benefits and savings for a couple months without much worry or compromise to my quality of life.

Re: Unemployed Fishing

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post #9

In one paragraph: >85 percent of workers worldwide hate their jobs >Anything that restores hope becomes worth the exercise. In other words: Many may hate their livelihoods, but liberation can be scary. Personally, I was once of the benefit of having mediocre tech skills and an employer who paid ridiculously well for them. But when I started having problems with stalking, break-ins and intentional ill will, they told…

If you don't have the means, it's not really "liberation". We are only nominally "free". You have to pay real estate taxes even if you do absolutely nothing, never get out of the house, and don't use any infrastructure or services. And if you don't, you'll very quickly find yourself under the bridge. My fantasy (which my wife doesn't share) is to one day find a place so deep in the boonies that no government official…

> In 2014, she wrote a letter that was published online, requesting anyone to come to her home to be her helper as her "health is waning".

I wonder if anyone came

Re: Unemployed Fishing

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What I want to read more about are people in industries in steady decline and why they didn't or couldn't get out before the end of the road. And maybe about those who did. There wasn't a sudden ban on journalism. And the story behind why he stuck around until the end is what interests me.

Judging by the quality of his writing, I’m going assume he felt it like a calling, stronger than any other.

Re: Unemployed Fishing

#17
post #9

In one paragraph: >85 percent of workers worldwide hate their jobs >Anything that restores hope becomes worth the exercise. In other words: Many may hate their livelihoods, but liberation can be scary. Personally, I was once of the benefit of having mediocre tech skills and an employer who paid ridiculously well for them. But when I started having problems with stalking, break-ins and intentional ill will, they told…

If you don't have the means, it's not really "liberation". We are only nominally "free". You have to pay real estate taxes even if you do absolutely nothing, never get out of the house, and don't use any infrastructure or services. And if you don't, you'll very quickly find yourself under the bridge. My fantasy (which my wife doesn't share) is to one day find a place so deep in the boonies that no government official…

Not so attractive once you need medical attention, which most people will at some point. Also, lots of hard work.

Re: Unemployed Fishing

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I would invite everyone here to get into fishing. It's an amazing sport and pastime.

I'm reminded of a monologue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5zShnoU5GY) by an Italian actor. It's called, The Story of a Broken Man. This is my, more or less literal, translation.

    This is the story of a man broken by power, commitments, and responsibilities.

    I've been thinking about how many years it has been since I've last gone fishing.

    I used to love fishing so much, but I don't go anymore.

    Perhaps, I had more important things to do, even though right now I couldn't tell you which.

    I haven't been back.

    We always have more important things to do that don't make us feel better,
    as if feeling better wasn't important enough.

    When I used to fish, I was so excited that I would wake up before the alarm went off.
    Actually, I was the one waking up the alarm. Wake uuup!

    And you're there fishing and you are alone, and if you're alone, you'll be at one with yourself, 
    you don't think about anything else anymore.
    You don't think about having to pay the mortgage, or about the current war.
    You don't think about having to pay the mortgage to fund the current war.

    You hear a gentle, polite voice
    A voice we've all heard at least once in our life; a voice from within that tells you...
    hey, hey... 
    You're so lucky!
    I'm so lucky... I'm so lucky!

    To me, fishing is like washing, a baptism.
    The water of the river, if you let it work, will take away all your thoughts
    and perhaps even all your sins.
    Including the original sin which is the one that pisses me off the most, pure judicial harassment.

    The water of the river, if you let it work, will wash away all your thoughts
    and perhaps even all your sins and put you back into the world anew,
    it fixes everything for you.

    And so I thought, let's give a fishing rod to all these people who are paralyzed by power.
    Let's give them the possibility to be alone with themselves,
    let's help them forget that they're irreplaceable.
    It will help them. It will help us.

    Fishing might seem a small and trivial thing, but it's a return to simple things, 
    to the fundamentals we are losing.

    Well, fishing gave me a great chance to hear that polite voice, 
    that gentle voice, that voice that tells you...

    Hey, you're so lucky!

    I'm so lucky, I'm so lucky!
    We're so lucky, we are so lucky!

    But...

    But every time I hear that voice I'm a little ashamed and I'm almost embarrassed.
    So then I thought, we must be really messed up if we are ashamed of feeling good.

    Maybe this is why I'm broken, perhaps this is why I don't go fishing, 
    because I'm afraid of realizing that if I want...
    if I really want... 
    I can feel good.

Re: Unemployed Fishing

#19
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't have the means, it's not really "liberation". We are only nominally "free". You have to pay real estate taxes even if you do absolutely nothing, never get out of the house, and don't use any infrastructure or services. And if you don't, you'll very quickly find yourself under the bridge. My fantasy (which my wife doesn't share) is to one day find a place so deep in the boonies that no government official…

I wonder if it's part of the social contract that everything society provided to get you here, one of the many payments is you have to stick around and be part of society for the next young you. I'm thinking about: what would happen if droves of people fled into the forest to live. Could society function without them? How many?

I'm pretty sure it would still function. If nothing else they aren't a drag on societal resources anymore. If society is so useful, it should only be better off when people leave for the greener pastures or Siberian tundra.

My main issue is not with societal contract. It's with the notion that we're somehow "free" when we're most certainly not free. Stop paying the state and men with guns will show up on your door step and take your shit. That doesn't sound like freedom to me.

Re: Unemployed Fishing

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if it's part of the social contract that everything society provided to get you here, one of the many payments is you have to stick around and be part of society for the next young you. I'm thinking about: what would happen if droves of people fled into the forest to live. Could society function without them? How many?

I'm pretty sure it would still function. If nothing else they aren't a drag on societal resources anymore. If society is so useful, it should only be better off when people leave for the greener pastures or Siberian tundra. My main issue is not with societal contract. It's with the notion that we're somehow "free" when we're most certainly not free. Stop paying the state and men with guns will show up on your door st…

Fair. And as was suggested, there's parts of the world where if you don't want all those government and societal benefits, you can totally just fuck off into a forest somewhere. I'm pretty sure you can do that up here in Canada but there's lots of ways that can kill you. It is a pretty romantic concept, I'll admit.
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