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Data scientists shouldn't use Upwork

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Re: Data scientists shouldn't use Upwork

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As a buyer I had a few good experiences finding contractors on Upwork. If “no one should ever use it,” does anyone have a good suggestion for a better place to find good freelance coders for small projects?

HN has its own dedicated monthly listing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20325924

Also reach out to your network... I belong to several slack nodes that have channels just for contracts and leads are dropped in there pretty regularly.

Re: Data scientists shouldn't use Upwork

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what would be a way to start contracting if you have no existing network, no existing clients to get references?

I actually do think Upwork is a good way to start but you could

1) Build a network - go to product meetups (assuming you're a dev) 2) Contact agencies near you and see if they have contract projects you can hop on 3) Use other sites - Toptal, Freelancer, Remote, Gigster, etc.

Re: Data scientists shouldn't use Upwork

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As a buyer I had a few good experiences finding contractors on Upwork. If “no one should ever use it,” does anyone have a good suggestion for a better place to find good freelance coders for small projects?

Absolutely do not use freelancer.com either. They charged my CC $54 when I closed my account. Shady site.

Re: Data scientists shouldn't use Upwork

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As a buyer I had a few good experiences finding contractors on Upwork. If “no one should ever use it,” does anyone have a good suggestion for a better place to find good freelance coders for small projects?

I think you can find good freelancers everywhere... And also bad ones. Whether upwork is good or not depends on your viewpoint. I think it is just a marketplace like everything else. I personally believe bigger value lies in longer relationships, therefore places like upwork should be just a place to get started.

Re: Data scientists shouldn't use Upwork

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Long term upwork Data Scientist here. It seems he had a bad experience, that could have happened on any other place / platform. There are always horror stories about how platforms deal with conflicts (think PayPal, Stripe, Uber...)

Out of >30 contracts I had, only 1 resulted in a dispute, and it was decided in my favor. I do agree the whole monitoring thing is absurd and I generally don't take jobs from clients that demand hours to be logged through the monitoring app. If you want to see how the jungle looks like, please have a go at freelancer.com.

Re: Data scientists shouldn't use Upwork

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post #18

Long term upwork Data Scientist here. It seems he had a bad experience, that could have happened on any other place / platform. There are always horror stories about how platforms deal with conflicts (think PayPal, Stripe, Uber...) Out of >30 contracts I had, only 1 resulted in a dispute, and it was decided in my favor. I do agree the whole monitoring thing is absurd and I generally don't take jobs from clients that…

> I generally don't take jobs from clients that demand hours to be logged through the monitoring app

Isn’t like 9/10 jobs there require you to use the monitoring?

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