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The forgotten joy of soap

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Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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What you're interpreting as "clean feeling" is likely stripping your skin of its protective oils. That's why we (doctors) don't recommend soaps as a general rule. That oil is there for a reason.

What is currently recommended instead of bar soap (e.g. instead of a bar of Dove for sensitive skin)?

I don't know if that Dove bar has soap in it, but there are many non-soap cleansers of varying degrees of harshness. I only know the brands available in Australia.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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post #9
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you're interpreting as "clean feeling" is likely stripping your skin of its protective oils. That's why we (doctors) don't recommend soaps as a general rule. That oil is there for a reason.

Good point, but what does that mean for the war against plastic gel bottles? From the article: > Given the war against plastic, maybe there will be a reaction to all these bottles of handwash. The bar of soap might yet stage a resurgence.

My wife (also a doctor) actually started buying some bars for exactly that reason. Unfortunately they were too harsh. It's an unsolved problem, as far as I know.

Once there's enough demand, I'm sure manufacturers will follow the dollars.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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I've been using bar soap for a good few years now as it was the means of cleaning that I could most-easily buy locally that seemed to incur the least plastic impact. I like to imagine that the invested energy density and cost of transport is better too, compared to gels and liquids. Regardless of all that worthiness though - I just prefer using the stuff and am gently delighted when I walk into my bathroom and minded…

Same here, the joy of a good Marseille soap (I'm in France). It lasts at least 3 months for showers, washing hands, and everything (hair as well)

I heard some people wash their teeth with soap, I'm not there yet :))

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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post #12
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point, but what does that mean for the war against plastic gel bottles? From the article: > Given the war against plastic, maybe there will be a reaction to all these bottles of handwash. The bar of soap might yet stage a resurgence.

My wife (also a doctor) actually started buying some bars for exactly that reason. Unfortunately they were too harsh. It's an unsolved problem, as far as I know. Once there's enough demand, I'm sure manufacturers will follow the dollars.

I "solve" this problem by using soap but in smaller amounts. It doesn't need to form a lather.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is currently recommended instead of bar soap (e.g. instead of a bar of Dove for sensitive skin)?

I don't know if that Dove bar has soap in it, but there are many non-soap cleansers of varying degrees of harshness. I only know the brands available in Australia.

You are right, no soap. It calls itself a "beauty bar" hah! I use it and it certainly doesn't cause the astringent and drying effect I get from real soap.

I tried to find out whether it was actually recommended for the skin and it's an ungoogleable topic infested by a toxic combination of beauty product snake-oil and "chemicals are evil" antivaxish insanity so I'm none the wiser.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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I've been using bar soap for a good few years now as it was the means of cleaning that I could most-easily buy locally that seemed to incur the least plastic impact. I like to imagine that the invested energy density and cost of transport is better too, compared to gels and liquids. Regardless of all that worthiness though - I just prefer using the stuff and am gently delighted when I walk into my bathroom and minded…

Same here, the joy of a good Marseille soap (I'm in France). It lasts at least 3 months for showers, washing hands, and everything (hair as well) I heard some people wash their teeth with soap, I'm not there yet :))

Oh Good Lord, no - I don't know if it's a particularly British thing, but children were threatened with having their "mouths washed out with soap" if they said rude words!

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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Surprised to see this on HN, it's not my main gig but recently I've been getting into the details of exporting and selling coconut oil soap from my family's business.

It's a remarkably simple process to make soap from oil or fat. just heat and add a caustic agent. Sodium Hydroxide for bar soap or Potassium Hydroxide for liquid soap.

When I check out the competition and look at the ingredients list I'm surprised at how many different things that are in most products. Most body washes are technically detergents not soaps.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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Does anyone else find shower-gel just completely ineffective? After using it I don't feel clean. I feel like I just rubbed cooking oil on my body. With regular soap bars you get the "clean" feeling which no other product seems to match.

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Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is currently recommended instead of bar soap (e.g. instead of a bar of Dove for sensitive skin)?

I don't know if that Dove bar has soap in it, but there are many non-soap cleansers of varying degrees of harshness. I only know the brands available in Australia.

I'm in Australia, can you suggest a few brands?
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