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VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

#11

How safe is it to setup a VPN (via Wireguard or something) with AWS?

i can't speak to the safety, but i think you'll find browsing with an AWS IP to be a frustrating experience. Many sites block traffic from known AWS IP ranges in an attempt to prevent scraping or abuse.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

#12

How safe is it to setup a VPN (via Wireguard or something) with AWS?

i can't speak to the safety, but i think you'll find browsing with an AWS IP to be a frustrating experience. Many sites block traffic from known AWS IP ranges in an attempt to prevent scraping or abuse.

Yep plus 1000 to this. I tried doing this 4 years ago and it was a miserable experience. And rightly so to be honest. For every privacy focused nerd, there are 1000 lowlife hackers and spammers trying to use something as a bounce proxy.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. It is a bit mind boggling that folks are concerned about something and use a VPN...but choose a free one...

One of the most popular paid ones, NordVON, is super mysterious anyhow.

How so?

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. It is a bit mind boggling that folks are concerned about something and use a VPN...but choose a free one...

> Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs.

This is absolutely not an apples to apples comparison, but why is it outrageous to believe there couldn't be a free VPN that focuses on privacy when there are search engines like Duckduckgo and browsers like Firefox that are completely free and are pro-privacy? I haven't done the research, so consider it a rhetorical question.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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How safe is it to setup a VPN (via Wireguard or something) with AWS?

Safe? Against what?

- Preventing websites from seeing your true IP? (you'll want to disable webrtc as well[1].) Mostly yes.

- preventing your ISP from spying on your traffic? (allowing Amazon to spy on your traffic in exchange...) Yes.

- Avoiding risk of legal threats if you engage in copyright infringement? Mostly no. They can subpoena Amazon instead of your ISP, and your lightsail/EC2 ip isn't shared.

Routing through a vpn, whether it's a commercial one or through AWS, linode, digitalocean, etc. will get you blocked on far more sites, because it's more difficult to identify individual clients, and there's more fraud and bot activity on any kind of vps or vpn netblock than there is on typical residential netblocks.

[1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Prevent-WebRTC-from-l...

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. It is a bit mind boggling that folks are concerned about something and use a VPN...but choose a free one...

Or those who think they can use unlimited bandwidth on 5 devices and have all of it decrypted on the other end for just $3 a month, with no string attached.

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

#17

How safe is it to setup a VPN (via Wireguard or something) with AWS?

Safe? Against what? - Preventing websites from seeing your true IP? (you'll want to disable webrtc as well[1].) Mostly yes. - preventing your ISP from spying on your traffic? (allowing Amazon to spy on your traffic in exchange...) Yes. - Avoiding risk of legal threats if you engage in copyright infringement? Mostly no. They can subpoena Amazon instead of your ISP, and your lightsail/EC2 ip isn't shared. Routing throu…

I would be fascinated to hear about how Amazon is spying on EC2 traffic in the same ways ISPs want to spy on/monetize customer traffic

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. It is a bit mind boggling that folks are concerned about something and use a VPN...but choose a free one...

Yes, a more secure and practical alternative to "VPN services" is the Tor network, which externalizes the cost of infrastructure to volunteers and thus reduces the risk inherent with centralized control. While Tor is also not without risk, I really wish more privacy oriented services and software had decentralization as a core tenet of their design.

Why does it need to be one or the other? why not both?

Re: VPN owners: 97 VPN products run by 23 companies

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Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. It is a bit mind boggling that folks are concerned about something and use a VPN...but choose a free one...

> Nearly as disturbing as the number of people who tell me they use free VPNs. This is absolutely not an apples to apples comparison, but why is it outrageous to believe there couldn't be a free VPN that focuses on privacy when there are search engines like Duckduckgo and browsers like Firefox that are completely free and are pro-privacy? I haven't done the research, so consider it a rhetorical question.

A browser is just an application with some minimal services provided such as sync, extensions hosting, auto-updates.

A VPN on the other hand consists of an application and usually unmetered usage of the company's bandwidth, which costs money.

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