Many more trees could be planted without encroaching on crop land or urban areas
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Re: Many more trees could be planted without encroaching on crop land or urban areas
#12Interesting – we need more of such studies. Check out Drawdown [0] for other interventions with quantified costs/benefits. Economists widely agree that carbon pricing is the most effective way to fix climate change [1], and fee-and-dividend implementations are the most viable politically (there's a bill before Congress now [2]). [0] https://www.drawdown.org/ [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/business/economic-sc…
That is true, and does not conflict with the findings of the article.
I think the difference here is that we can start planting trees right now. Carbon taxation is something people still pretend doesn't have to be done.
It's also worth noting, that given the accelerating pace of the climate crisis, the time to start planting those forests is NOW. Not in a year, not in two years, NOW.
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#13Re: Many more trees could be planted without encroaching on crop land or urban areas
#14Interesting – we need more of such studies. Check out Drawdown [0] for other interventions with quantified costs/benefits. Economists widely agree that carbon pricing is the most effective way to fix climate change [1], and fee-and-dividend implementations are the most viable politically (there's a bill before Congress now [2]). [0] https://www.drawdown.org/ [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/business/economic-sc…
> Economists widely agree that carbon pricing is the most effective way to fix climate change That is true, and does not conflict with the findings of the article. I think the difference here is that we can start planting trees right now. Carbon taxation is something people still pretend doesn't have to be done. It's also worth noting, that given the accelerating pace of the climate crisis, the time to start planting…
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#15“Crowther emphasised that it remains vital to reverse the current trends of rising greenhouse gas emissions from fossil fuel burning and forest destruction, and bring them down to zero. He said this is needed to stop the climate crisis becoming even worse and because the forest restoration envisaged would take 50-100 years to have its full effect of removing 200bn tonnes of carbon”
200bn tonnes? Apparently humanity releases at the moment almost 40bn CO2 tonnes per year (1). All that trees then replace only 5 years.
1) https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aaf303
"CO2 emissions grew by 1.6% in 2017 to 36.2 Gt (billion tonnes), and are expected to grow a further 2.7% in 2018 (range: 1.8%–3.7%) to a record 37.1 ± 2 Gt CO2 (Le Quéré et al 2018b)."
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#17That means a global / multinational movement against governments cutting trees (eg for lucrative construction deals) is needed.
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#18Consider that coal comes from dead trees - growing trees will be a big part of the solution.
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#20 “We still have a net loss of about 10bn trees a year,” Crowther said.
This is a horrible number... I wonder what the true loss is, without the component of planted trees?