I watched (on reuters) the police come in with tear gas and beat sticks and riot shields and beat/gas the entire crowd away, with a sign reading 'WARNING: TEAR GAS'. Even though the legislative chamber seemed relatively empty compared to the large crowd outside milling about and continuing the peaceful protest...
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#12FWIW, the BBC World Service coverage of this has been... disappointing. During the time the protestors were raising the British flag in the legislative chamber, the World Service was doing an in-depth report on Taylor Swift's latest social media rant, and interviewing some blogger about Ivanka Trump. I remember when the BBC was the go-to place for breaking world news.
Perhaps, they are stalling until political leadership can suggest an angle to take on the events.
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#13You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction. So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night. To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?
Could you imagine the UK passing a law that Brussels has jurisdiction over UK citizens? The brexiters would go absolutely nuts. HK has a history of resisting Chinese attempts to impose One China on them.
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#14You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction. So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night. To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?
The last time the HK police used force there was a massive backlash and the police were angry the government put them in that position to take the brunt of the people's anger. There are very good non-conspiratorial reasons for the police to take their time, this time around. Plus there's always a subset of protestors who just want to destroy property and take a more aggressive stance (usually the younger ones), regar…
This time they wait until the protest has effectively finished trashing the legislature, then go in with tear gas and have a big sign stuck on riot shields of "WARNING: TEAR SMOKE". Both police and protest seem to be taking a dramatically different approach. The peaceful demonstrations that have continued appear separate.
Maybe it is as presented, but it sure makes me suspicious given history.
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#15You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction. So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night. To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?
The last time the HK police used force there was a massive backlash and the police were angry the government put them in that position to take the brunt of the people's anger. There are very good non-conspiratorial reasons for the police to take their time, this time around. Plus there's always a subset of protestors who just want to destroy property and take a more aggressive stance (usually the younger ones), regar…
3 suicides over the last few days can be associated to the current unrest. I wouldn't say it's all the government's fault but it cannot be overlooked either.
They are desperate, while whether the current realities warrant that feeling is debatable, one cannot deny its existence.
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#16Press wear a more heavily reinforced helmet w/ possible other colors? If True, thats so cool that they are organized enough to agree the protestors wear helmets!
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#17You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction. So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night. To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?
It also creates a genuine likelihood of raising anti Chinese sentiment and increasing the threat of violent resistance.
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#18I watched (on reuters) the police come in with tear gas and beat sticks and riot shields and beat/gas the entire crowd away, with a sign reading 'WARNING: TEAR GAS'. Even though the legislative chamber seemed relatively empty compared to the large crowd outside milling about and continuing the peaceful protest...
Those protesters, trying to avoid arrest, left before the police re-occupied the building.
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#19Have there been any political leaders in Hong Kong who have publicly opposed returning to China or who have requested recognition by other UN member States?
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#20I really hope Hong Kong gains independence from China. They do not want to be part of that regime. Hong Kong currently participates in some United Nations committees, but is not recognized as a country. Have there been any political leaders in Hong Kong who have publicly opposed returning to China or who have requested recognition by other UN member States?