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NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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For those who are not familiar with the author of this blog, he is a PowerPC enthusiast and the maintainer of TenFourFox, a Firefox port to PPC OS X. He's also currently working on a new PPC JIT for (modern) Firefox on Linux (a project for which he is looking for volunteers to assist him[1]) to bring it to speed parity with Chrome on PPC (which already has a PPC JIT). [1] https://www.talospace.com/2019/03/pitch-into-…

What is the last supported OS X version for PowerPC processors?

Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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post #6

For those who are not familiar with the author of this blog, he is a PowerPC enthusiast and the maintainer of TenFourFox, a Firefox port to PPC OS X. He's also currently working on a new PPC JIT for (modern) Firefox on Linux (a project for which he is looking for volunteers to assist him[1]) to bring it to speed parity with Chrome on PPC (which already has a PPC JIT). [1] https://www.talospace.com/2019/03/pitch-into-…

Do you mean webkit on ppc (since I searched but couldn't find a chrome port)

Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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post #6

For those who are not familiar with the author of this blog, he is a PowerPC enthusiast and the maintainer of TenFourFox, a Firefox port to PPC OS X. He's also currently working on a new PPC JIT for (modern) Firefox on Linux (a project for which he is looking for volunteers to assist him[1]) to bring it to speed parity with Chrome on PPC (which already has a PPC JIT). [1] https://www.talospace.com/2019/03/pitch-into-…

What is the last supported OS X version for PowerPC processors?

10.5.8 "Leopard"

Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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post #6

For those who are not familiar with the author of this blog, he is a PowerPC enthusiast and the maintainer of TenFourFox, a Firefox port to PPC OS X. He's also currently working on a new PPC JIT for (modern) Firefox on Linux (a project for which he is looking for volunteers to assist him[1]) to bring it to speed parity with Chrome on PPC (which already has a PPC JIT). [1] https://www.talospace.com/2019/03/pitch-into-…

Do you mean webkit on ppc (since I searched but couldn't find a chrome port)

There is a community Chromium port to PPC Linux[1]. Modern PPC Linux distros should have it in their repositories. So far Google has not accepted the patches to enable PPC support upstream[2].

[1] https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Porting/Chromium

[2] https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chrom...

Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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As an owner of both G4 and G3 laptops, I can assure you, eggs will fry given the right task... The G3 was actually worse.

Long way from reports of fires. I’ve only heard of lithium batteries doing that

No it's the chips, these machines didn't exactly have the most user friendly heat dissipation design, on both models the CPU heat conducted straight through to the top case. maybe not cook an egg very fast but uncomfortable to touch for more than a second... maybe 1 EPH (one egg per hour) :)

Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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post #6

For those who are not familiar with the author of this blog, he is a PowerPC enthusiast and the maintainer of TenFourFox, a Firefox port to PPC OS X. He's also currently working on a new PPC JIT for (modern) Firefox on Linux (a project for which he is looking for volunteers to assist him[1]) to bring it to speed parity with Chrome on PPC (which already has a PPC JIT). [1] https://www.talospace.com/2019/03/pitch-into-…

I just picked up a G4 iBook and am grateful for TenFourFox. Combined with uBlock Origin legacy builds, it’s actually usable for some modern sites, which is pretty impressive.

Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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post #10
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an owner of both G4 and G3 laptops, I can assure you, eggs will fry given the right task... The G3 was actually worse.

Long way from reports of fires. I’ve only heard of lithium batteries doing that

Now the old Powerbook 5300's actually did catch fire. My 1st tech job was a hardware technician at an Apple production facility mostly building and refurbishing Powerbooks, can confirm.

Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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As fun as this is (and as much as I appreciate putting good old hardware to use and as much as I like PPC): the power consumption alone wouldn't make this a winner :(

I have a PowerBook G4 DVI, iBook G4, B&W G3, GbE G4, Dual G5 here, I want to get rid of them but I like them too much. Yet I can't run them for fun all day long either because the amount of power they eat >:( The problems of a hardware connoisseur.

Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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As fun as this is (and as much as I appreciate putting good old hardware to use and as much as I like PPC): the power consumption alone wouldn't make this a winner :( I have a PowerBook G4 DVI, iBook G4, B&W G3, GbE G4, Dual G5 here, I want to get rid of them but I like them too much. Yet I can't run them for fun all day long either because the amount of power they eat >:( The problems of a hardware connoisseur.

o_O Compared to what? G3s and G4s are pretty light on power usage - IIRC they use around 10-15w? The G3s were even less.

The i7 in my desktop uses at least 95w, and some reviews suggest it's more like 140w lol.

Edit: Unless you're pairing them with CRT monitors...

Re: NetBSD on the last G4 Mac mini and making the kernel power failure proof

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As fun as this is (and as much as I appreciate putting good old hardware to use and as much as I like PPC): the power consumption alone wouldn't make this a winner :( I have a PowerBook G4 DVI, iBook G4, B&W G3, GbE G4, Dual G5 here, I want to get rid of them but I like them too much. Yet I can't run them for fun all day long either because the amount of power they eat >:( The problems of a hardware connoisseur.

Author here. Power consumption on this unit is about 21W.

Is the CPU/watt ratio less than later units? You bet. But it's not bad, it's free, it's not in a landfill, and it's more than enough grunt for the basic tasks it's doing.

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