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A List of Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

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Re: A List of Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

#11
"One popular "trick" for obfuscating voting manipulation on Hacker News is to link to the Hacker News's /newest page of new submissions (instead of a direct link which would otherwise make voting manipulation obvious), and asking friends to upvote the submission from that page. This trick doesn't actually work."

I use /newest to find and upvote new stuff all the time, are my votes being silently ignored?

Re: A List of Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

#12
post #10

> Downvoted comments (i.e. with a score This desaturation is the most annoying misfeature of Hacker News IMO, it makes reading comments very hard and negates the "bandwagoning prevention" that not showing a visible score has (which is a good idea). I'd rather judge for myself a comment's worth than have it faded out for me. (yes there are workarounds, like using Stylus to override the CSS, but my comment is against t…

>I'd rather judge for myself a comment's worth than have it faded out for me.

It's not for you, it's a feedback for the commenter. And making your comment unpleasant for others adds an emotional component into the feedback, which is quite effective.

Re: A List of Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

#13
post #10

> Downvoted comments (i.e. with a score This desaturation is the most annoying misfeature of Hacker News IMO, it makes reading comments very hard and negates the "bandwagoning prevention" that not showing a visible score has (which is a good idea). I'd rather judge for myself a comment's worth than have it faded out for me. (yes there are workarounds, like using Stylus to override the CSS, but my comment is against t…

>I'd rather judge for myself a comment's worth than have it faded out for me. It's not for you, it's a feedback for the commenter. And making your comment unpleasant for others adds an emotional component into the feedback, which is quite effective.

But it also affects "me" and anyone who tries to follow a discussion by making the text harder to read. The commenter already has a feedback on the visible-to-them score. Why not make negative scores visible to everyone instead (even make the score red or whatever to point out this is a negative comment)? After all at the moment you introduce this visual change you do not care about the bandwagoning aspect anymore.

Re: A List of Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

#15
post #9

Comment collapsing is a useful feature. The problem with giving the largest weight to the most upvoted comment is it also gives a large weight to all replies (unless they're heavily downvoted). It's useful to be able to skip those replies once they get less interesting. However, this does lead to yo-yoing: reading comments downwards, going back up to find the right collapse button then reading down again. It'd be use…

The new Reddit desktop site has a good solution for that - each comment draws a bar down the side of its children, which you can click on to collapse the paarent. You collapse any level of parent comment without havign to scroll back up.

Re: A List of Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

#16
post #10

> Downvoted comments (i.e. with a score This desaturation is the most annoying misfeature of Hacker News IMO, it makes reading comments very hard and negates the "bandwagoning prevention" that not showing a visible score has (which is a good idea). I'd rather judge for myself a comment's worth than have it faded out for me. (yes there are workarounds, like using Stylus to override the CSS, but my comment is against t…

>I'd rather judge for myself a comment's worth than have it faded out for me. It's not for you, it's a feedback for the commenter. And making your comment unpleasant for others adds an emotional component into the feedback, which is quite effective.

I don't believe it is for the commenter, they can see the number score of their comment.

Re: A List of Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

#17
post #11

"One popular "trick" for obfuscating voting manipulation on Hacker News is to link to the Hacker News's /newest page of new submissions (instead of a direct link which would otherwise make voting manipulation obvious), and asking friends to upvote the submission from that page. This trick doesn't actually work." I use /newest to find and upvote new stuff all the time, are my votes being silently ignored?

I hope this implemented as filtering for users that cames from a same http referrer and leaves 1 vote only.

Re: A List of Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

#18
post #14

https://news.ycombinator.com/topcolors is kind of fascinating (and ridiculous - why does it exist?). Let me add some plots to the situation: https://imgur.com/a/KRzcQcU Quite a range (I've always been happy with orange).

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=97573 for why the topcolor option exists.

See also https://web.archive.org/web/20080115223854/http://ycombinato....

Re: A List of Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

#19
post #3

Does anyone know if 50 was the original karma limit for downvoting? I'm asking because I've always thought it was 50 and was surprised I was wrong by a factor of 10 :-).

To judge by the version at http://arclanguage.org/install, the original was 200.
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