A great podcast episode on this is Planet Money's 'Mexico Fights The Fuel Pirates'; they explain how it all led up to this
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/03/08/701613540/epis...
A Gas Heist Gone Wrong
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
the war on drugs should have been aborted years ago. If that had been done, there would not be any gangs blowing up pipelines today.
We haven’t fought any drug wars in Venezuela, and they have routine gas theft, including tanker truck hijackings. It sounds more like economic causes than “the US did it!”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Venezuel...
Hugo Chavez's rise was definitely a response to US (and other powers) involvement in Latin America. The US did not "do it" (where it is directly causing gas theft). There is more to the history in South America and directly inside Venezuela and what the US was doing.
These issues are much more complicated than "the US never sent troops to Venezuela to fight against drug dealers..."
[edit]: removed assertion that parent was purposefully ignoring history. That was my assumption, not what they said.
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#13Worth remembering Mexico nationalized gas, leading to gas shortages, rationing - and higher prices.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
We haven’t fought any drug wars in Venezuela, and they have routine gas theft, including tanker truck hijackings. It sounds more like economic causes than “the US did it!”
And we certainly have never interfered in any economic sense in Venezuela ... hold on, my producer is telling me that this is incorrect.
Elaborate?
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#15There was an article recently about how the drug cartels in Mexico pivoted into stealing gas. Much easier and less risky than drug trafficking. This is why ending the war on drugs in US will not improve the Mexico violence problem much.
the war on drugs should have been aborted years ago. If that had been done, there would not be any gangs blowing up pipelines today.
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#16Worth remembering Mexico nationalized gas, leading to gas shortages, rationing - and higher prices.
That seems like a un-nuanced generalization of Mexico and it's politics. Saudi Arabia has nationalized gas and has no shortage and low prices.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
We haven’t fought any drug wars in Venezuela, and they have routine gas theft, including tanker truck hijackings. It sounds more like economic causes than “the US did it!”
And we certainly have never interfered in any economic sense in Venezuela ... hold on, my producer is telling me that this is incorrect.
This type of sarcasm adds nothing and is noise compared to you just making your simple counter-assertion.
No need to dress it up in extraneous LARPing where you have a producer.
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#18Did a kid get shot for seeing too much ?
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#19There was an article recently about how the drug cartels in Mexico pivoted into stealing gas. Much easier and less risky than drug trafficking. This is why ending the war on drugs in US will not improve the Mexico violence problem much.
Removing one revenue source might help... Even just reducing it.
Obviously, no single thing will fix it, and whatever you do it'll take a long time.
Economic opportunities might be just as important too.
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#20Version of story without a paywall: https://1stamendmentnews.org/2019/06/26/a-gas-heist-gone-wro...