Open Source Could Be a Casualty of the Trade War

Post by butteroverflow » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 6:25 PM UTC

blihp wrote: post #9

cyborgx7 wrote: post #2

The article takes a while to get to the point made in the title but the way to counteract this seems to be, get the infrastructure for open source out of America before it's too late. In contrast to the ARM example, the US doesn't really have any leverage against a volunteer open source project not within its borders.

Open Source effectively is out of America or any other single jurisdiction: think of all of the people who have up to date copies of virtually every package all around the world. If the U.S. were to say tomorrow, as we used to do with cryptography, that (certain types of) software can't be shared outside of the U.S., the development of said (Open Source) software would likely just be taken over by groups outside the…

Post by toyg » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 6:33 PM UTC

butteroverflow wrote: post #11

blihp wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open Source effectively is out of America or any other single jurisdiction: think of all of the people who have up to date copies of virtually every package all around the world. If the U.S. were to say tomorrow, as we used to do with cryptography, that (certain types of) software can't be shared outside of the U.S., the development of said (Open Source) software would likely just be taken over by groups outside the…

I believe the majority of FOSS developers reside in the US. You can't really pipe them out through a fiber channel.

Post by blihp » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 6:35 PM UTC

butteroverflow wrote: post #11

blihp wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open Source effectively is out of America or any other single jurisdiction: think of all of the people who have up to date copies of virtually every package all around the world. If the U.S. were to say tomorrow, as we used to do with cryptography, that (certain types of) software can't be shared outside of the U.S., the development of said (Open Source) software would likely just be taken over by groups outside the…

I believe the majority of FOSS developers reside in the US. You can't really pipe them out through a fiber channel.

Post by bilbo0s » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 6:50 PM UTC

ISL wrote: post #5

cyborgx7 wrote: post #2

The article takes a while to get to the point made in the title but the way to counteract this seems to be, get the infrastructure for open source out of America before it's too late. In contrast to the ARM example, the US doesn't really have any leverage against a volunteer open source project not within its borders.

Fortunately, there is a bulwark: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The bulwark defending the bulwark is the population.

Post by Trombone12 » Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 6:55 PM UTC

xrd wrote: post #10

baybal2 wrote: post #6

A contact at Foxconn just told me yesterday that Apple is genuinely serious about leaving China completely. Apparently, Mr. Trump summoned Mr. Cook last week, and extended an offer of a tax break and other "relocation packages" on the size "not seen in human history" if Apple moves to USA. Hearing things like that keeps reminding me that Taiwanese engineering fraternity is one of worlds best intelligence agencies :)

And Apple will milk that agreement long after Trump leaves office, doing whatever makes more sense for the bottom line, even if that means moving to production to Mexico eventually. And, just like all these large companies, will avoid paying corporate taxes to an even greater extent. Trump will claim he restored American manufacturing, and he will have, long enough for him to Tweet about it, and not much longer.