Do the job requirements really need to list ms excel and office three times?
"What I tell you three times is true"
Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
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Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
#12Do the job requirements really need to list ms excel and office three times?
You better know your pivot tables, son.
Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
#13I think all engineers with VAX experience are extinct ...or retired.
Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
#14Here's the backstory: http://web.archive.org/web/20100310163744/http://www.stsc.hi...
The way that the fine article was worded, it seems that the engineering team knew that they needed approximately 1.5M LOC before they has started. How could they have known that? Or is it simply poorly worded?
> The ATF Team planned to develop approximately 1.5 million source lines of code, across more than 20 software development companies located throughout the U.S., Canada, and Europe.
Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
#15This is surely about VME industrial bus, not about VAX processors or computers.
The only mention of VAX/VME from the job post:
> Experience with troubleshooting equipment such as Pass1000/5000 1553 bus monitor, fiber-optic test equipment, digital storage oscilloscopes, and familiarization with the VAX/VME based computing environment.
Seems apparent to me that the context is development+ATE environment; VME is likely VXI interface to ATE instrumentation. In any case, the VMS and/or VME angle to this job post is the least of any prospect's concerns.
Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
#16I had a VAX class for a year. All I remember from it was the smoking teacher, non stop, who's beard was sort of white, sort of orange, from the nicotine. Oh, and the retarded VAX implementation. I went into design after that.
Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
#17Here's the backstory: http://web.archive.org/web/20100310163744/http://www.stsc.hi...
The way that the fine article was worded, it seems that the engineering team knew that they needed approximately 1.5M LOC before they has started. How could they have known that? Or is it simply poorly worded? > The ATF Team planned to develop approximately 1.5 million source lines of code, across more than 20 software development companies located throughout the U.S., Canada, and Europe.
System engineers in the defense industry have an insidious infatuation with SLOC metrics. To the detriment of many a development engineer, CMU SEI hasn't developed a better way to keep them preoccupied.
Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
#18I started my career working for British Aerospace in 1989. We used VAX/VMS as our development platform (Code was CORAL 66 and then ADA). I spent some time supporting the Sea Harrier flight test operations - so I would have fitted this job perfectly about 28 years ago!).
I'd like to say that I'm astonished that modern aircraft still use the 1553 bus, but nothing surprises me when it comes to the use of stone-age tech in military hardware. For example, the other Harrier I worked on in the early 90s (GR-7 - same as US AV8B) still used core memory.
Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
#19Here's the backstory: http://web.archive.org/web/20100310163744/http://www.stsc.hi...
The way that the fine article was worded, it seems that the engineering team knew that they needed approximately 1.5M LOC before they has started. How could they have known that? Or is it simply poorly worded? > The ATF Team planned to develop approximately 1.5 million source lines of code, across more than 20 software development companies located throughout the U.S., Canada, and Europe.
Also seems pretty low for a team that size. I would love to know their cost per line...
Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22
#20Here's the backstory: http://web.archive.org/web/20100310163744/http://www.stsc.hi...
Wow. Reminds me of a joke my dad repeated to me many years ago: Software saved the aerospace industry. Every other way of adding cost to an airplane also adds weight. He spent most of his career at Lockheed and Rockwell.
I guess storing all those 1's also adds some weight. It costs on the order of antimatter if you think of it. What's it like, $50 million per 1 billionth of a gram, or so?