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US military is terrified of climate change – but is the world's biggest polluter

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Re: US military is terrified of climate change – but is the world's biggest polluter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the headline says they are scared of climate change (which is not a "someone", but a collection of serious consequences) and then includes the irony that they are contributing to that very threat as a big polluter.

You may have seen the updated headline, which is much clearer.

Very possible - I didn't realize it had been changed. My apologies.

Re: US military is terrified of climate change – but is the world's biggest polluter

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I've recently seen an interesting documentary [1] about then-senator Al Gore asking the CIA to study the vast satellite image archives to figure out what was going on with the arctic. They half-heartedly started a project but it really only took off when Bill clinton became president and Al Gore vice president. They'd invited scientists of all disciplines to the CIA, gave them clearances in an accelerated process and gave them access to the images. They even went to russia to study their reports of the arctic. With Bush, the project was cancelled until Obama revived it and even established a dedicated office [2].

[1]: https://sales.arte.tv/fiche/ESPIONS_POUR_LA_PLANETE

[2]: https://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-releases-statemen...

Re: US military is terrified of climate change – but is the world's biggest polluter

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post #13

When the aliens want to destroy a planet they give them capitalism, science, and technology. The people do rest of the work. Because power corrupts. The greater the power the worse the eventual catastrophe.

Going to need a source for that.

Re: US military is terrified of climate change – but is the world's biggest polluter

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When the aliens want to destroy a planet they give them capitalism, science, and technology. The people do rest of the work. Because power corrupts. The greater the power the worse the eventual catastrophe.

Going to need a source for that.

We do have a sample size of one. We’ve tried global capitalism once, and combined with a global industrial revolution we’ve so far increased the global average temperature by a whole degree celsius[1].

1: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...

Re: US military is terrified of climate change – but is the world's biggest polluter

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post #14

The DoD is the world's largest employer. Unsurprisingly, they are the largest polluter. That doesn't make them hypocrites automatically.

I fail to see a causal relationship between employment and carbon emissions?

Re: US military is terrified of climate change – but is the world's biggest polluter

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post #15

I've recently seen an interesting documentary [1] about then-senator Al Gore asking the CIA to study the vast satellite image archives to figure out what was going on with the arctic. They half-heartedly started a project but it really only took off when Bill clinton became president and Al Gore vice president. They'd invited scientists of all disciplines to the CIA, gave them clearances in an accelerated process and…

From 2 above:

"Its charter is not the science of climate change, but the national security impact of phenomena such as desertification, rising sea levels, population shifts, and heightened competition for natural resources."

Re: US military is terrified of climate change – but is the world's biggest polluter

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Going to need a source for that.

We do have a sample size of one. We’ve tried global capitalism once, and combined with a global industrial revolution we’ve so far increased the global average temperature by a whole degree celsius[1]. 1: https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...

Ah, that's good. We've got a bit of leeway before we reach boiling point.
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