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Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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It baffles me that people want to pay for something that is widely available for free.

The original context is different and the tone is flippant but "If you're not paying you're not the customer, you're the product".

Considering how easy it is for ad-supported businesses to suddenly become unsupported and disappear I'm willing to give a nominal fee (~$8 forever) a shot.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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post #6

It baffles me that people want to pay for something that is widely available for free.

I pay because I want to be the customer. If I am buying something, I am able to exert market pressure on the provider. If I am a collection of poorly-anonomized data being passed around from J. Random data mining company, I lose this (admittedly, largely nominal) agency.

I pay for email, I pay for hosting photos, and I pay for pinboard.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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I just switch to Pinboard from delicious. I really like that I'll be able to search and archive the content of my bookmarks. Here's what it took for me to get started: - Exported bookmarks from delicious - Signed up and paid $25 for Pinboard (their non-archiving service is cheaper) - Imported in to Pinboard (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) - Removed my browser plugins for de…

> (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now)

Honestly, I think that's unacceptable for a relatively unknown service that charges a steep price ($25/year for _bookmarking_ is pretty crazy). To not get good uptime and speedy access and have a bold red banner on the top of your homepage claiming poor scaling is not encouraging.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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post #2

I just switch to Pinboard from delicious. I really like that I'll be able to search and archive the content of my bookmarks. Here's what it took for me to get started: - Exported bookmarks from delicious - Signed up and paid $25 for Pinboard (their non-archiving service is cheaper) - Imported in to Pinboard (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) - Removed my browser plugins for de…

> (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) Honestly, I think that's unacceptable for a relatively unknown service that charges a steep price ($25/year for _bookmarking_ is pretty crazy). To not get good uptime and speedy access and have a bold red banner on the top of your homepage claiming poor scaling is not encouraging.

They charge $8.38 at this time (it goes up a little bit for each user, same tiny fraction of cent). The $25 is for extra features that not everyone uses/needs.

Personally, I signed up when it was around $6.30 which means a ton more users in the last while (I signed up when Xmarks was saying they were going under) and with a major bookmarking service going under, a small service getting bombarded with many more users usually gives up the ghost and dies totally, not just slows down for certain functions while others continue on fine.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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post #12
post #6

It baffles me that people want to pay for something that is widely available for free.

I pay because I want to be the customer. If I am buying something, I am able to exert market pressure on the provider. If I am a collection of poorly-anonomized data being passed around from J. Random data mining company, I lose this (admittedly, largely nominal) agency. I pay for email, I pay for hosting photos, and I pay for pinboard.

> I pay for email

Out of curiosity, who do you pay to host your email?

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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post #2

I just switch to Pinboard from delicious. I really like that I'll be able to search and archive the content of my bookmarks. Here's what it took for me to get started: - Exported bookmarks from delicious - Signed up and paid $25 for Pinboard (their non-archiving service is cheaper) - Imported in to Pinboard (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) - Removed my browser plugins for de…

> (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) Honestly, I think that's unacceptable for a relatively unknown service that charges a steep price ($25/year for _bookmarking_ is pretty crazy). To not get good uptime and speedy access and have a bold red banner on the top of your homepage claiming poor scaling is not encouraging.

I agree that it looks bad, but I think they are getting a huge flood of new signups and imports based on all the news around Yahoo potentially shutting down Delicious. All parts of the service were fast (one of the major features for me) until the TechCrunch article yesterday.

I'm using Pinboard.in right now to navigate my collection of bookmarks and manage tags and I don't notice any slowdown. I suspect the slowdown is actually limited to new imports and archiving. There has been no downtime related to all the new signups as far as I have seen. The developers are active on Twitter http://twitter.com/pinboardin and the Google Group http://groups.google.com/group/pinboard-dev/ so you can check out the discussion yourself.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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post #2

I just switch to Pinboard from delicious. I really like that I'll be able to search and archive the content of my bookmarks. Here's what it took for me to get started: - Exported bookmarks from delicious - Signed up and paid $25 for Pinboard (their non-archiving service is cheaper) - Imported in to Pinboard (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) - Removed my browser plugins for de…

> (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) Honestly, I think that's unacceptable for a relatively unknown service that charges a steep price ($25/year for _bookmarking_ is pretty crazy). To not get good uptime and speedy access and have a bold red banner on the top of your homepage claiming poor scaling is not encouraging.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. There was no downtime, and no slow access.

We went from our normal rate of 5k bookmark writes per day to over 5 million in a 24 hour period without going offline.

Hell, we didn't even get slow. Our median page load times stayed well under a third of a second. We had no advance notice of the announcement and had to handle the spike in traffic on the fly, on one server. Our competitors crashed, we stayed up.

I'm pretty proud of this and I think our users got their money's worth from Pinboard today.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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Another good alternative, albeit search-based, is http://historio.us .

I recently switched to historious after seeing it here on HackerNews, and I've been very happy with it so far. It's a great bookmarking service; I'm surprised it hasn't received more attention with the debacle going on at Delicious.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pay because I want to be the customer. If I am buying something, I am able to exert market pressure on the provider. If I am a collection of poorly-anonomized data being passed around from J. Random data mining company, I lose this (admittedly, largely nominal) agency. I pay for email, I pay for hosting photos, and I pay for pinboard.

> I pay for email Out of curiosity, who do you pay to host your email?

In my case fastmail.fm, zenfolio.com, and pinboard.in.

Re: Why Pinboard.in Is My Favorite Alternative Bookmarking Service to Delicious

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I pay for email Out of curiosity, who do you pay to host your email?

In my case fastmail.fm, zenfolio.com, and pinboard.in.

How is their web UI compared to Gmail, for example? Do you feel like you're missing out on any features, or do you access mail exclusively via a desktop client?
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