Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome • Hacker News Board

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by fernandotakai » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:16 PM UTC

now that's weird. firefox is my main browser (developer edition on linux, windows and macos) and i never get captchas.

maybe it's because i don't use umatrix (i only use ublock origin)? maybe because i'm always logged-in in at least one google account?

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by damnyou » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:16 PM UTC

This could either be some of Firefox's privacy features genuinely making it look more bot-like to Google, Google accidentally or deliberately sabotaging Firefox, or some combination of the two. It's not really possible to tell from the outside, but it's clear that Google's incentives are for Google's products to work better with each other.

This is why Google should be broken up -- it should be forced to spin off Chrome into a separate company with a business model similar to what Firefox has.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by wybiral » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:17 PM UTC

partiallypro wrote: post #7

baggy_trough wrote: post #3

The Google captcha enrages me. Why should I train their stupid AI?

What's funny is that the AI needs to be trained...yet it already knows which choices are correct and incorrect. So, is it really necessary? Edit: This is a joke, I am joking.

If they do it the way that the OCR recaptcha works, it allows some new ones to go through and uses consensus to classify them.

So most of them will have already been classified and those are used to test your integrity (and verify you) but an occasional new one will be presented that won't count towards your verification and if enough people agree on it it'll be classified.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by SubiculumCode » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:17 PM UTC

partiallypro wrote: post #7

baggy_trough wrote: post #3

The Google captcha enrages me. Why should I train their stupid AI?

What's funny is that the AI needs to be trained...yet it already knows which choices are correct and incorrect. So, is it really necessary? Edit: This is a joke, I am joking.

This is the natural question to ask. I finally decided that they probably compare your answers to several other humans to validate training data.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by MarkMc » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:18 PM UTC

partiallypro wrote: post #7

baggy_trough wrote: post #3

The Google captcha enrages me. Why should I train their stupid AI?

What's funny is that the AI needs to be trained...yet it already knows which choices are correct and incorrect. So, is it really necessary? Edit: This is a joke, I am joking.

I suspect it knows the correct choices for some of the little pictures it shows you, but for others you are training it.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by Algent » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:19 PM UTC

Are you using Canvas Blocker or similar extensions ? As a FF user I also have to go thru 3-4 captcha everywhere and I'm pretty sure it's because the system is having trouble giving me a stable fingerprint.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by stanski » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:19 PM UTC

This reminds me of ticketmaster.

Site owners can choose not to use google's recaptcha2 but it has become the de facto standard now so no one cares.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by kbumsik » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:20 PM UTC

fernandotakai wrote: post #11

now that's weird. firefox is my main browser (developer edition on linux, windows and macos) and i never get captchas. maybe it's because i don't use umatrix (i only use ublock origin)? maybe because i'm always logged-in in at least one google account?

I use a plain FF and I'm always logged in the Google account but I face this annoying captcha everyday.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by Wowfunhappy » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:20 PM UTC

fernandotakai wrote: post #11

now that's weird. firefox is my main browser (developer edition on linux, windows and macos) and i never get captchas. maybe it's because i don't use umatrix (i only use ublock origin)? maybe because i'm always logged-in in at least one google account?

> maybe because i'm always logged-in in at least one google account?

That's likely a primary reason.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by theandrewbailey » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 3:21 PM UTC

ziddoap wrote: post #2

The fire hydrant example... I deal with this every day. It takes soooo looooong to load, it's really ridiculous.

I'd be cool with it if it didn't fade out the selection and load new images. Fine, you want to do that, Google? I think some of these other images are hydrants, too!