Some very hateful things have come out of Google. Who gets to define hate?
Edit: Changed to more reasonable assertion.
Our ongoing work to tackle hate
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#12Counterpoint: https://twitter.com/shaun_jen/status/1136068719262752769 (link to screenshotted thread https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1136055959476817921 )
https://twitter.com/reckless/status/1136088138357493761 YouTube tried to explain this decision on background to us, but I made the call to ignore it because they won't go on the record. YouTube has a major harassment problem, but an even bigger problem with transparency and consistency of policy enforcement. It is not our job to paraphrase their explanations. It is their job to own their policy decisions.
Edit to update: as of half an hour ago, the channel's monetization has been suspended. https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1136341801109843968
Update update: It's even dumber than it first looked. https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1136356046887313408
Re: Our ongoing work to tackle hate
#13I imagine there's boiler room full of guys somewhere tagging videos as "Borderline content", creating data which then feeds into a machine learning algorithm which decides which videos get promoted. All videos are metricized by the similarity to borderline content, and are increasingly likely to be promoted in proportion to increasing graph distance from the borderline content. Youtube management gets nice plausible…
the machines won't take over because someone puts them in charge, they'll take over because everyone's ass is covered avoiding decisions.
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#14Now they're taking responsibility for editing content, we can assume they implicitly endorse anything they haven't banned, right?
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#15Nice to see they're banning the Flat Earthers. Because the Flat Earthers need MORE evidence that the TRUTH!!! is being suppressed by Big Corporations.
Consider the possibility that it's not designed to convince you earth is flat.
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#16Now they're taking responsibility for editing content, we can assume they implicitly endorse anything they haven't banned, right?
That doesn't follow, does it? I sense you're being sarcastic to some extent, but I'm not sure to what end, specifically.
Re: Our ongoing work to tackle hate
#17Some very hateful things have come out of Google. Who gets to define hate? Edit: Changed to more reasonable assertion.
That's a pretty dramatic assertion - in the field of hateful things, you'd have to be pretty extreme to qualify as "some of the most hateful". What do you have in mind?
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#19Now they're taking responsibility for editing content, we can assume they implicitly endorse anything they haven't banned, right?
That doesn't follow, does it? I sense you're being sarcastic to some extent, but I'm not sure to what end, specifically.
How doesn't it follow? If anything they don't approve of is removed then things they don't remove they must approve.
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#20It's often a shame that network effects are nearly impossible to overcome. It looks like the feature of "less censorship" will never be enough to mount a challenge to YouTube. But, perhaps posts like these from Google will one day succeed in persuading people to start looking elsewhere for videos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services
I'm sure the Nazis and Sandy Hook Truthers will be happy to know there are so many other options. Look, we live in a world where, for better or worse, we don't force publishers to publish anything they don't want to. Youtube telling Nazis to go jump in a lake is no different than your local paper declining to run an editorial from one. It just seems different because the scope is so much bigger.
Exactly. You have a freedom to speak. You don't have a freedom to use someone else's forum to gain an audience. No more than I have a right to walk into your house and do whatever I want.