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A NY School District Defies State, Plans To Proceed With Facial Recognition Test

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Re: A NY School District Defies State, Plans To Proceed With Facial Recognition Test

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whatshisface wrote: post #4
grecy wrote: post #2

I look forward to hordes of teenagers pushing back against this - wearing hats, burkas, sunglasses, excessive makeup etc. etc. At least, I sure hope they will.

It's already against the rules to cover your face in many schools. Besides, if the system can't recognize you, you will be marked as absent - so the punishment for defeating the surveillance system is the same as the punishment for breaking the rule it's intended to enforce. Those teenagers are dependent on the civic involvement of adults, they can't save themselves.

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Re: A NY School District Defies State, Plans To Proceed With Facial Recognition Test

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Post by jahewson »

magduf wrote: post #8
saagarjha wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will, but the school will just make policies outlawing clothing that covers facial features (or may have some already).

If they outlaw burqas, they can face lawsuits over religious freedom.

Perhaps so but there’s no legal protection when wearing such clothing for non-religious reasons, as would clearly be the case here.

Re: A NY School District Defies State, Plans To Proceed With Facial Recognition Test

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Post by radcon »

I'm so glad I grew up during a time when you didn't have to worry about every single second of your life potentially being captured on video and used for some nefarious purpose.

I can't imagine being a kid in this type of environment. Then again, many of the kids who will be unwillingly subjected to this probably aren't informed enough to understand the potential long-term consequences of pervasive surveillance, which makes it all the more evil.

It's appalling that they spent $1.4 million (so far) on this rather than putting the money towards more useful things like teacher salaries or after-school programs. Maybe if they improved the overall school experience they wouldn't need to monitor the kids like prisoners?

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

daodedickinson wrote: post #3

Good gravy. I'd go into hiding if there was anywhere left to go. Wish I was religious so I could try to join a monestary.

Just become a pastafarian. You can make up your own creed as you go.

Re: A NY School District Defies State, Plans To Proceed With Facial Recognition Test

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Post by saagarjha »

magduf wrote: post #8
saagarjha wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will, but the school will just make policies outlawing clothing that covers facial features (or may have some already).

If they outlaw burqas, they can face lawsuits over religious freedom.

Not everyone uses burqas, and trying to argue for religious freedom when you're using headwear in bad faith is not a particularly good idea.

Re: A NY School District Defies State, Plans To Proceed With Facial Recognition Test

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Post by deogeo »

The stated aims of the system are easily covertly expanded (and there is ample history to indicate that will happen) to turn the school into a panopticon, building a social graph and personality profile of kids as they grow up.

To me this looks like an openly hostile act.

Re: A NY School District Defies State, Plans To Proceed With Facial Recognition Test

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Post by otakucode »

Because children and adolescents aren't people, they often have surveillance and control technologies tested on them. And when the surveillance and control technologies significantly increase school violence (can you name a school shooting at a school that didn't have cameras?), they conclude that more technology is needed to surveil and control. I imagine it's a booming business.
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