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Banned bread: why does the US allow additives that Europe says are unsafe?

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Re: Banned bread: why does the US allow additives that Europe says are unsafe?

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I always look at the ingredients list of bread in the US and I am always surprised how long the list is. Why do they put so much stuff (and always sugar or syrup) into any bread?

Sugar is a drug, so I guess that addiction can play here. There's not a lot of regulations for health and safety around most ingredients, so I'd say that also plays: Fewer risks of decay and such

sugar is not a drug. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug

Re: Banned bread: why does the US allow additives that Europe says are unsafe?

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I always look at the ingredients list of bread in the US and I am always surprised how long the list is. Why do they put so much stuff (and always sugar or syrup) into any bread?

Modern bread (including in those other countries without the additives mentioned in this article) isn't generally yeast risen. Yeast is added for flavour only. Expensive breads are different but the regular stuff you buy in supermarkets is agitated with hardened fats to trap air. Yeast not involved.

This changes many of the properties of the bread and the long-term effects of this change aren't well understood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorleywood_bread_process

No knead bread is really easy to make, low effort, ridiculously cheap and able to fit into a busy lifestyle. It uses long fermentation with yeast to rise and condition the dough. I use this recipe: https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/03/basic-no-knead-b...

Re: Banned bread: why does the US allow additives that Europe says are unsafe?

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I do not know anything about these chemicals in particular, but this framing: > It may sound odd, but in America, your loaf of bread can contain ingredients with industrial applications – additives that also appear in things like yoga mats, pesticides, hair straighteners, explosives and petroleum products. always bugs the hell out of me. Water has numerous industrial applications. Linseed oil and NaCl have numerous i…

> straight-up fear-mongering The unofficial Guardian tagline EDIT: Downvoters, from the linked page: > Toxic America: Is modern life poisoning us? Weedkiller in your breakfast cereal. Contaminated drinking water. Carcinogenic chemicals in your furniture. Americans are routinely exposed to dangerous chemicals that have long been banned in countries such as the UK, Germany and France. Of the 40,000 chemicals used in co…

Well at least back in the day they would restrict themselves to the UK. Now they fear-monger worldwide :P

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> straight-up fear-mongering The unofficial Guardian tagline EDIT: Downvoters, from the linked page: > Toxic America: Is modern life poisoning us? Weedkiller in your breakfast cereal. Contaminated drinking water. Carcinogenic chemicals in your furniture. Americans are routinely exposed to dangerous chemicals that have long been banned in countries such as the UK, Germany and France. Of the 40,000 chemicals used in co…

Well at least back in the day they would restrict themselves to the UK. Now they fear-monger worldwide :P

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Re: Banned bread: why does the US allow additives that Europe says are unsafe?

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Doesn't it simply come down to the EU applying the precautionary principle for all safety regulation, including food additives, whilst the US does not?

I think that is one part, and the other part is that companies opinions about what is safe or not, holds no weight.

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I do not know anything about these chemicals in particular, but this framing: > It may sound odd, but in America, your loaf of bread can contain ingredients with industrial applications – additives that also appear in things like yoga mats, pesticides, hair straighteners, explosives and petroleum products. always bugs the hell out of me. Water has numerous industrial applications. Linseed oil and NaCl have numerous i…

> straight-up fear-mongering The unofficial Guardian tagline EDIT: Downvoters, from the linked page: > Toxic America: Is modern life poisoning us? Weedkiller in your breakfast cereal. Contaminated drinking water. Carcinogenic chemicals in your furniture. Americans are routinely exposed to dangerous chemicals that have long been banned in countries such as the UK, Germany and France. Of the 40,000 chemicals used in co…

That snippet seems to clearly demonstrate that it is not fear mongering if only 400 of 40,000 chemicals used have been even tested for human safety.

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I've always been fascinated by how disgusting the bread is in the US. Do we know what lead to this ?

I dont understand either, they should call it long-life cake or something. My supermarket has racks and racks of bread, and I dont like any of it.

Re: Banned bread: why does the US allow additives that Europe says are unsafe?

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I've always been fascinated by how disgusting the bread is in the US. Do we know what lead to this ?

"Factory" bread can be "disgusting" because it's made to feed the masses and gain market share, not taste good. For the same reason hamburgers at McDonald's are not as good as those made at a quality restaurant or at home.

Good bread, as with any good food, typically takes time and quality ingredients. You won't find that in mass produced food. That costs too much.

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