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The APA Meeting: A Photo-Essay

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Re: The APA Meeting: A Photo-Essay

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There's illumination here for those of us who've been prescribed shockingly expensive drugs with generic near-equivalents going for 1/40th the price (as I have):

>I asked the Lucemyra® representative why I might prescribe Lucemyra® instead of clonidine for opiate withdrawal. She said it was because Lucemyra® is FDA-approved for this indication, and clonidine isn’t. This is the same old story as Rozerem® vs. melatonin, Lovaza® vs. fish oil, and Spravato® vs. ketamine. ...

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I think the thing that stands out to me about this whole thing is how nakedly corrupt it comes off as. I'm sure the legions will rush to rebut me and say "But Psychiatrists have ethical standards! They would never let ice cream influence their decision to prescribe a substandard drug!" That may be true, both philosophically and perhaps even in practice (though I doubt it...[0]) but even still, the bonanza of sleazy a…

Food should be rationed on a nutritional basis, full stop. Attempting to advertise your food on any other basis should be a criminal offense. We as a society need to draw a bright moral line to stop this type of behavior.

I mean, everyone needs food. It's life and death. Clearly more important even than psychiatric drugs.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad I read the piece. It's going to generate some pointless, awful arguments here, but the comments aren't everything.

The mods can turn comments off on posts, but rarely do. I think, if we want to broaden the kinds of stories that can survive without flagging, that should happen more often.

I hope your comment stays at the top to at least inspire people to try to exceed your expectations.

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This is like the seeds of 3/4 of all the bad HN threads all in one blog post. We can relitigate the concept of psychiatry, debate the implications of big pharma, yell at each other about wokeness versus PC culture, pretend not to understand how trade shows work or, I don't know, find some way to argue about how they should be run... and who knows what else. And virtually none of the comments will be from people who h…

I loved this post (basically a balanced criticism of psychiatry by a psychiatrist), and I think it makes a great HN submission.

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It's kind of horrifying to consider that advertising has a statistically significant chance of influencing a psychiatrist away from prescribing based on what best suits the indication.

It should be nationalized.

Specifically product discovery should be switched to a non-profit quango. The people currently engaged in the advertising industry should be paid to promote positive shit whilst their business wind down over a decade.

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I think the thing that stands out to me about this whole thing is how nakedly corrupt it comes off as. I'm sure the legions will rush to rebut me and say "But Psychiatrists have ethical standards! They would never let ice cream influence their decision to prescribe a substandard drug!" That may be true, both philosophically and perhaps even in practice (though I doubt it...[0]) but even still, the bonanza of sleazy a…

Food should be rationed on a nutritional basis, full stop. Attempting to advertise your food on any other basis should be a criminal offense. We as a society need to draw a bright moral line to stop this type of behavior. I mean, everyone needs food. It's life and death. Clearly more important even than psychiatric drugs.

This is a false paralellism. There is no equivalent to 'taste' in terms of medication. Sure, you may urge your doctor to switch from one medication to another because it works better for you or has more acceptable side effects. But that's very clearly a clinical decision.

In any case, shilling with free ice cream or a giant house of cards does not communicate this information.

Re: The APA Meeting: A Photo-Essay

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I think the thing that stands out to me about this whole thing is how nakedly corrupt it comes off as. I'm sure the legions will rush to rebut me and say "But Psychiatrists have ethical standards! They would never let ice cream influence their decision to prescribe a substandard drug!" That may be true, both philosophically and perhaps even in practice (though I doubt it...[0]) but even still, the bonanza of sleazy a…

> Drugs should be prescribed on a clinical basis, full stop. Attempting to advertise your medication on any other basis should be a criminal offense.

You want to jail people who advertise medication on the basis of price?

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Looks like psychiatrists have a word for every disorder except the disorder they themselves are afflicted with.

It's either that or these preponderance of woke talks and problematizing anything and everything is a prime example of the Shirky Principle in action.

https://kk.org/thetechnium/the-shirky-prin/

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This is like the seeds of 3/4 of all the bad HN threads all in one blog post. We can relitigate the concept of psychiatry, debate the implications of big pharma, yell at each other about wokeness versus PC culture, pretend not to understand how trade shows work or, I don't know, find some way to argue about how they should be run... and who knows what else. And virtually none of the comments will be from people who h…

Your complaints pop up in basically any thread except for the most bland, or specifically technical, of posts here. Saying it's a bad post because it pinged something particularly offensive in your brain is your own biases talking.

Parent comment specifically states "I'm not saying the post is bad", yet you say "Saying it's a bad post because" in your response. It would be better to read their comment in full to attempt to better understand their angle before responding with a comment like that.

Re: The APA Meeting: A Photo-Essay

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This is like the seeds of 3/4 of all the bad HN threads all in one blog post. We can relitigate the concept of psychiatry, debate the implications of big pharma, yell at each other about wokeness versus PC culture, pretend not to understand how trade shows work or, I don't know, find some way to argue about how they should be run... and who knows what else. And virtually none of the comments will be from people who h…

>I should score a point the first time an HN user psychoanalyzes another user over the Internet on it.

To be sure, I think it should be the first time someone estimates someone's political party based on psych comments, a reversal of the usual trope.

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