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City residents live with mental illness at higher rates than general population

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Re: City residents live with mental illness at higher rates than general population

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Post by jweir »

maxsilver wrote: post #4
CalRobert wrote: post #2

Cities are great, if you build them for people, and not cars. We don't do this anymore (outside a few exemplar places like Denmark, NL, etc.), sadly.

This is why electric cars are so important. No exhaust, no noise. They're perfect for urban use.

They are a sign of urban failure. If your city needs cars your city has failed. Go spend some time a city without cars - or sections of a city that don’t allow cars - I’ll wager you like it.

Unfortunately in the US many criticize such efforts as being like Disneyland - as if that is a bad a thing.

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Post by gumby »

eslaught wrote: post #8
challenger22 wrote: post #3

>In fact, the Centre for Urban Design and Mental Health estimates that city dwellers face a nearly 40 percent higher risk of depression, 20 percent higher chance of anxiety, and double the risk of schizophrenia than people living in rural areas. >In their review, Meyer-Lindenberg and van den Bosch found that some potential threats had been examined more thoroughly than others. For some, including pollen, there wasn’t…

Consider: for pretty much any animal I'm aware of, there's a notion of the minimum amount of space it needs to live normally. Somehow for people we've convinced ourselves that there is no such minimum (or it's so small as to be absurd).

But within a species (I'm thinking of human's naturally) there seem to be cultural variances.

Re: City residents live with mental illness at higher rates than general population

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Post by eswat »

maxsilver wrote: post #4
CalRobert wrote: post #2

Cities are great, if you build them for people, and not cars. We don't do this anymore (outside a few exemplar places like Denmark, NL, etc.), sadly.

This is why electric cars are so important. No exhaust, no noise. They're perfect for urban use.

I believe it’s the urban planning involved in accommodating the physical traffic of vehicles the GP is getting at, not the emissions.

Electric vehicles do nothing to address roads occupying more space than sidewalks, for example.

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Post by lr4444lr »

CalRobert wrote: post #2

Cities are great, if you build them for people, and not cars. We don't do this anymore (outside a few exemplar places like Denmark, NL, etc.), sadly.

When I was in Copenhagen 4 years ago, cars were pretty plentiful. (Not so much street parking.) I read that car ownership there is about 30%. Where were you thinking of?

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Post by klipt »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #9
CalRobert wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Electric cars don't solve: * kids being killed if they try to play in the street * urban centres being destroyed by parking lots * elderly people being terrified to cross the street * Dead cyclists etc...

They do solve allowing those of us who want to live in rural areas to do so in an environmentally friendly way. No cities please.

80% of Americans live in cities. That means if they all moved to rural areas, the population density of rural areas would go up 5X. Would they still be rural then?

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Post by [deleted] »

klipt wrote: post #16
toomuchtodo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do solve allowing those of us who want to live in rural areas to do so in an environmentally friendly way. No cities please.

80% of Americans live in cities. That means if they all moved to rural areas, the population density of rural areas would go up 5X. Would they still be rural then?

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Post by nradov »

gumby wrote: post #12
eslaught wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider: for pretty much any animal I'm aware of, there's a notion of the minimum amount of space it needs to live normally. Somehow for people we've convinced ourselves that there is no such minimum (or it's so small as to be absurd).

But within a species (I'm thinking of human's naturally) there seem to be cultural variances.

Some cultures have learned to tolerate minimal personal space as a necessary evil. But when people from those cultures get wealthy they almost always choose to buy more space and privacy.

Re: City residents live with mental illness at higher rates than general population

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Post by deathanatos »

lr4444lr wrote: post #14
CalRobert wrote: post #2

Cities are great, if you build them for people, and not cars. We don't do this anymore (outside a few exemplar places like Denmark, NL, etc.), sadly.

When I was in Copenhagen 4 years ago, cars were pretty plentiful. (Not so much street parking.) I read that car ownership there is about 30%. Where were you thinking of?

As an American, outside of NYC and maybe Boston, 30% car ownership sounds incredibly low to me. I'm in SF, and while I know some who don't, the overwhelming majority of people that I know own a car. I take public transit daily — and I need a car to get to it.
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