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VMware to Acquire Bitnami

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Re: VMware to Acquire Bitnami

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I feel like I've never understood why I'd want to use Bitnami as opposed to ... just installing software. From the post, it sort of seems like the target audience is companies that have developers and "enterprise IT" (who are probably overworked and simultaneously tasked with maintaining AD and Google Apps) but no UNIX-specific sysadmin/SRE/build engineering staff?

Lots of small business as well. Want to deploy to the cloud but lack the skill set to manage a real server.

Is that not a disaster waiting to happen.

Re: VMware to Acquire Bitnami

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I feel like I've never understood why I'd want to use Bitnami as opposed to ... just installing software. From the post, it sort of seems like the target audience is companies that have developers and "enterprise IT" (who are probably overworked and simultaneously tasked with maintaining AD and Google Apps) but no UNIX-specific sysadmin/SRE/build engineering staff?

You're missing the point of what Bitnami actually does. Bitnami isn't helping "enterprise IT" to install Wordpress. They are helping AWS/GCP/Azure/etc... to attract more users with less effort. It's kind of "hey, random guy that has no idea how to install Wordpress! Do you want to get a Wordpress up and running in in less than a minute?". Edit: look at the comment right after mine. Perfect proof.

Interesting - if I search for "install wordpress on cloud", I get a Google Cloud page (probably because of the major providers, Google Cloud is the only one that has "cloud" in its name) linking to a Google-built turnkey image https://cloud.google.com/wordpress/ . If I specifically search for "install wordpress on aws", AWS's docs tell you to install a Bitnami image https://aws.amazon.com/getting-started/tutorials/launch-a-wo... .

Google's page also says this, which I strongly agree with, though:

> Note: For automatic software updates and security patches, consider using a provider such as Kinsta or WP Engine which offers fully-managed WordPress solutions.

It seems sort of irresponsible to find people who aren't super comfortable with apt-get install and make it easy for them to run a WordPress they're responsible for security updates for; you're just setting themselves up to get popped. If Bitnami solves this, that seems extremely valuable, but my experience is most of the automated ways to patch WordPress come at significant risk of breaking important plugins. And managed WordPress is a reasonable product (almost everyone who wants a WordPress can just use a hosted, managed solution) and a thriving market already.

Re: VMware to Acquire Bitnami

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Lots of small business as well. Want to deploy to the cloud but lack the skill set to manage a real server.

Is that not a disaster waiting to happen.

Of course, but the premise is that the small businesses don't know enough to make these evaluations anyway.

Re: VMware to Acquire Bitnami

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They probably exercise their options and make some $ off the transaction.

How so? They don't have any actual stock. They have options to stock.

Usually depends on the type of option. If they are 'double cliff' then the employee stock option will vest automatically, if they aren't then the emplyee will lose them.

Re: VMware to Acquire Bitnami

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You're missing the point of what Bitnami actually does. Bitnami isn't helping "enterprise IT" to install Wordpress. They are helping AWS/GCP/Azure/etc... to attract more users with less effort. It's kind of "hey, random guy that has no idea how to install Wordpress! Do you want to get a Wordpress up and running in in less than a minute?". Edit: look at the comment right after mine. Perfect proof.

Interesting - if I search for "install wordpress on cloud", I get a Google Cloud page (probably because of the major providers, Google Cloud is the only one that has "cloud" in its name) linking to a Google-built turnkey image https://cloud.google.com/wordpress/ . If I specifically search for "install wordpress on aws", AWS's docs tell you to install a Bitnami image https://aws.amazon.com/getting-started/tutorials/la…

Bitnami has worked with all three cloud providers - I was in at least one video meeting with them when I was at Google on the GCP team. (To be clear, I haven't worked for Google in over 4 years and am speaking only for myself here.)

I suspect there are Bitnami offerings in Google's marketplace too - most things in that marketplace are built by third parties such as Bitnami, but unlike for Amazon's marketplace Google does view themselves as the reseller of the products offered there.

Bitnami does require applying updates via e.g. apt-get, as mentioned in another reply from someone else. I wonder if their GCE images follow Google's norm of turning on automatic security updates by default, as do most regular Google-supported GCE operating system images. No idea.

PS - Hi, long time no see, hope you're doing well!

Re: VMware to Acquire Bitnami

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How so? They don't have any actual stock. They have options to stock.

Usually depends on the type of option. If they are 'double cliff' then the employee stock option will vest automatically, if they aren't then the emplyee will lose them.

I've never heard the term 'double cliff' before, can you explain?

Re: VMware to Acquire Bitnami

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So... what happens now with all the employees that have stock options?

Went through an acquisition with Vmware... they converted the stock options to Vmware options that vested at the same rate and were worth the exact same based upon the acquisition price. If they had already vested, they just paid you out. This may depend on the deal though.

Re: VMware to Acquire Bitnami

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I feel like I've never understood why I'd want to use Bitnami as opposed to ... just installing software. From the post, it sort of seems like the target audience is companies that have developers and "enterprise IT" (who are probably overworked and simultaneously tasked with maintaining AD and Google Apps) but no UNIX-specific sysadmin/SRE/build engineering staff?

Plenty of reasons. I've used them to kick the tires on various things without needing to go through the install. Their images are distributed to many cloud providers so it took all of 5 minutes to get going.

Now, for long term, high-availability usage, it might not be the best idea but for many users it's "good enough".

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