One Day With the Squad That Removes Needles and Feces From Downtown Portland
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#12Dear San Francisco, Can we have a few of these squads?
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#13Are narcoterrorists from Central and South America the difference? Is this a new heroin, why the 10x leap in needles in five years?
Is the difference that mental health is left to someone other than the state?
As a native Portlander and someone that thinks the city should be involved in helping people get out of addiction and homelessness, this story is riveting, tragic, hopeful and maddening all at once.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would make the people that generate the needles and feces effectively invisible in our society. Their suffering would be for naught.
So it’s better to not provide the people in this horrid situation with any dignity in the hopes that something changes and shames society into some unknown action? Portland IS trying to provide public toilets and a cleaner environment on the streets at least. It sounds like the person profiled for this article actually was able to get her life together. It’s a step. SF can learn a lot from Portland. For example, it i…
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#16I'm curious, does anyone from Portugal or Amsterdam have any comments on this story? Obviously, easy access to drugs is one side of this story. But, that's also the case in Portugal and Amsterdam, right? Are narcoterrorists from Central and South America the difference? Is this a new heroin, why the 10x leap in needles in five years? Is the difference that mental health is left to someone other than the state? As a n…
1. Hand out opioids like candy. Everyone has pain now and then(backpain, dentist, etc), so everyone gets to try them.
2. People become habitual users and in some cases junkies.
3. Restrict the supply of OTC opioids, while continuing to lose the war on illegally supplied drugs.
4. Addicts and people looking to avoid getting dopesick look to heroin for its low-cost and relative abundance.
Now you have a major spike in heroin users. From what I've heard, a lot of people switch to heroin because it's available. They switch to shooting up because it's cost effective.
When you're high as a kite, sleeping in the street or being covered in shit really doesn't bother you. When you're obsessed with getting another fix, you tend to lower the priority of 'non-essential' activities like bathing or eating.
Note that not all addicts end up sleeping in gutters. I learned via a friend that there are many hidden addicts in society. There are professionals who shoot H just to maintain and avoid getting dope sick. I think the perceived lack of opportunities for low-skilled and older workers has contributed to a situation where many would rather get high and be homeless than struggle holding down a 9-5 just to go broke at their first health crisis.
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#18Dear San Francisco, Can we have a few of these squads?
You can call 311 to report issues like this to the city. However, I quickly realized that the crew isn't too happy about being called out for such matters. After reporting yet another dump on the sidewalk in front of our home, I saw the city crewman pull up, take his power sprayer, and blast the feces under my fence and all over my side yard - effectively rendering it no longer his problem.
They already know.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would make the people that generate the needles and feces effectively invisible in our society. Their suffering would be for naught.
So it’s better to not provide the people in this horrid situation with any dignity in the hopes that something changes and shames society into some unknown action? Portland IS trying to provide public toilets and a cleaner environment on the streets at least. It sounds like the person profiled for this article actually was able to get her life together. It’s a step. SF can learn a lot from Portland. For example, it i…
SF can learn a lot from Houston, Dallas, or San Antonio: they don’t have city blocks covered with shit, needles, or people living in tents on the sidewalks. The more SF “helps,” the more they attract. Houston is the 4th largest city and has a fraction of the homeless. Red districts seem to have less income inequality and fewer homeless and lower poverty.[1]
The San Francisco Approach seems to always be “let’s spend more money on the problem.” But basic economics suggests that subsidizing something gives you more of it. For example, unemployment benefits in France are extremely generous, and you have double and triple the unemployment than in the US. Many people in France stay on unemployment to the last possible moment before they seek a job because the system incentivizes just that. The problem as I see it is that liberals tend to make policies from a position of emotion, such as “we can’t cut because that’s cruel.” However, it is just like feeding stray cats: you feed them and that promotes more strays. If you raise a Lion in captivity, they never learn to hunt and thus they are forever destined to being the wards of the state.
This is a highly unpopular opinion around here to be sure, but if we are being honest, the current policies promote a society of dependency. San Franciscans often cite a pleasant climate as a reason for so many homeless choosing to live in the city, however, for a homeless person, San Francisco weather is a lot colder and more miserable than many other places in the US. So why does San Francisco have such an incredible addiction and homeless problem? Perhaps it’s policies that allow homeless people to shoot up on the street? Perhaps it’s the higher availability of homeless services from well-meaning, but naïve non-profits? One of the richest and most liberal cities in the world — and a profound homeless problem. Is there a correlation? Could the policies of liberal Portland and San Francisco actually be the problem? I had to spend some time in New Haven and Hartford and, as someone from Texas, I was amazed at the total slums right next to gated millionaire neighborhoods. Despite high taxes to “help” the problem, it only seems to make it worse.
What am I missing? I am not trying to throw gasoline on the issue, but I genuinely don’t understand. California is almost 80% Democrat, so supposedly, the state is unencumbered by pesky conservatives, yet the problem seems to be getting progressively worse. It isn’t the federal government’s fault because otherwise there’d be similar levels of problems everywhere else.
[1] https://www.axios.com/income-inequality-blue-red-districts-6...
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#20Another approach to reducing discarded needles is to open needle-exchanges and safe-injection sites (e.g. Vancouver[1]). This also reduces infection from sharing needles, overdose deaths, and paramedic resources.
[1] https://vancouver.ca/people-programs/safe-injection-site-and...