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HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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Re: HP Spectre 15 x360 2019 review: Carving a niche in a crowded space

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Post by the8472 »

dhimes wrote: post #4
Ndymium wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me too, I use tenkeyless keyboards on my desktops and don't have a need for a numpad in a laptop. I know some people type a lot of numbers but personally I have no use for it, and doing without it allows for better positioning and sizing of the normal keyboard.

I'm on the other side. I like the numpad, but I wish there was another place for it. But then, I also use a mouse!

You can get a TKL keyboard and an external numpad. Then you can put the numpad in some other location around the keyboard/mouse combo.

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Post by tepidandroid »

phreenet wrote: post #2

Is there anyone else that cannot stand the numpad being put onto a laptop keyboard? The laptop looks good enough but the keyboard layout means I would never get one.

Definitely. It ruins the aesthetics and is completely unnecessary . If I really, really need one, i'd rather just use an externally dongle'd numpad.

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Post by nine_k »

systemtest wrote: post #5
phreenet wrote: post #2

Is there anyone else that cannot stand the numpad being put onto a laptop keyboard? The laptop looks good enough but the keyboard layout means I would never get one.

I want my hands to be in the middle of the laptop. No numpad for me please.

Numpad in the middle of a split keyboard could be somehow sensible.

Then make the split keyboard ergonomic, like ergodox, and add a trackpoint.

Sadly, likely too radical for a business laptop.

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Post by rbanffy »

panpanna wrote: post #7

How common are 15" laptops at your workplace? I had to fight IT to get one. For some reason they really really wanted me to have something smaller.

In my past few companies, 15" Macbooks were standard for engineers. 13" for the rest of the staff.

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Post by rbanffy »

phreenet wrote: post #2

Is there anyone else that cannot stand the numpad being put onto a laptop keyboard? The laptop looks good enough but the keyboard layout means I would never get one.

I find it terrible. It moves the keyboard/trackpad off-center.

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Post by jdhawk »

rbanffy wrote: post #15
panpanna wrote: post #7

How common are 15" laptops at your workplace? I had to fight IT to get one. For some reason they really really wanted me to have something smaller.

In my past few companies, 15" Macbooks were standard for engineers. 13" for the rest of the staff.

I think this was more to do w/ the internals than the screen real estate.

I'd prefer a hot 13" something over a 15

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Post by PascLeRasc »

rbanffy wrote: post #16
phreenet wrote: post #2

Is there anyone else that cannot stand the numpad being put onto a laptop keyboard? The laptop looks good enough but the keyboard layout means I would never get one.

I find it terrible. It moves the keyboard/trackpad off-center.

A lot of manufacturers with poor taste react to that by offsetting the trackpad to the left, so it's only usable with one hand. What really bothers me about most laptops is the fonts used on the keyboards. I haven't seen a good one yet other than Apple's San Francisco.

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

krupan wrote: post #10

I have the 2018 15" Spectre as my work laptop. It's running linux really well. No 10-key number pad, which I'm happy with. I don't understand this article's complaint about the "small" touchpad. It's fine. You also have the entire touch screen if you like. It's really too big to use in tablet mode, but occasionally I try it just for fun. Overall 15" feels bigger than I'd like to lug around, but it's pretty thin so it…

Just opened the article and saw the display is as reflective as a mirror[1]. Holy cow, how can you even work like that?!

[1] https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/HP-x3...

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Post by NullPrefix »

tepidandroid wrote: post #12
phreenet wrote: post #2

Is there anyone else that cannot stand the numpad being put onto a laptop keyboard? The laptop looks good enough but the keyboard layout means I would never get one.

Definitely. It ruins the aesthetics and is completely unnecessary . If I really, really need one, i'd rather just use an externally dongle'd numpad.

A choice between aesthetics and usability.
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