would be interesting to see what the counterfit measures are. could a kid with photoshop buy beer with their phone? or would there have to be some kind of corresponding tech on the POS to verify the ID? that sounds peachy.
Google Is Bringing Electronic IDs to Android
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Re: Google Is Bringing Electronic IDs to Android
#12I wonder about the due process implications for this at, say, a traffic stop. If you hand a police officer your phone to show them your driver's license, is that implicit consent to search your phone? Will the ID-showing mode be special in that it will allow the holder to see the ID, but the rest of the phone will remain locked?
I like that they're looking for ways to make it so you still have access to ID documents even when the battery is drained to the point that the phone cannot boot, but overall I'd still want to carry a physical card as a backup. And if I'm doing that, I'm just going to use the physical card in most situations where I need it.
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#13It's weird to see all these crutches and half-assed fixes instead of lobbying and other work done to fix the ID situation in the US. It's really unfathomable to me how big of a problem identity theft and unauthorized access to digital systems for a regular citizen is. Especially compared to what for example Estonia has built, where I really do not have to worry about that issue - I have to have my ID card (or my mobi…
There's a very vocal minority that views any attempt by the government to make any ID proof that the New World Order exists. There's also a pretty decent sized part of the Evangelical movement that sees those IDs as potentially the literal "mark of the beast" from revelations.
Additionally a part of the Republican strategy is to disenfranchise via selectively reducing access to valid existing IDs while cranking up voting requirements of those IDs.
This combo basically means that both Republicans as a whole and the Blue Dogs see it as politically nonviable, which is more than a majority at the federal level.
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#14Completely off-topic: If you scroll down past the linked article and onto the next article, the URL automatically changes (from /google-is-bringing-electronic-ids-to-android to /cisco-open-sources-mindmeld-conversational-ai-platform ). I've never seen this type of behavior from a web page before.
If you curios how it's done check here: https://infinite-scroll.com/
Interesting. I'm wondering what the benefit of infinite scrolling would be for the site owner. Wouldn't an article site like this want the user to click as many links within the site as possible to re-generate ads?
Re: Google Is Bringing Electronic IDs to Android
#15I wonder about the due process implications for this at, say, a traffic stop. If you hand a police officer your phone to show them your driver's license, is that implicit consent to search your phone? Will the ID-showing mode be special in that it will allow the holder to see the ID, but the rest of the phone will remain locked? I like that they're looking for ways to make it so you still have access to ID documents…
They mentioned there are ways to access the ID in different ways if needed, i.e. you could allow NFC'ing the ID even if the phone battery is dead, so they will probably have a way to access the ID without unlocking your phone entirely.
Kind of like how you double-tap the power button to turn on the phone camera, but you can't access the phone's photos without unlocking.
Re: Google Is Bringing Electronic IDs to Android
#16It's weird to see all these crutches and half-assed fixes instead of lobbying and other work done to fix the ID situation in the US. It's really unfathomable to me how big of a problem identity theft and unauthorized access to digital systems for a regular citizen is. Especially compared to what for example Estonia has built, where I really do not have to worry about that issue - I have to have my ID card (or my mobi…
There's a very vocal minority that views any attempt by the government to make any ID proof that the New World Order exists. There's also a pretty decent sized part of the Evangelical movement that sees those IDs as potentially the literal "mark of the beast" from revelations. Additionally a part of the Republican strategy is to disenfranchise via selectively reducing access to valid existing IDs while cranking up vo…
> Additionally a part of the Republican strategy is to disenfranchise via selectively reducing access to valid existing IDs while cranking up voting requirements of those IDs.
Can't the goverment provide the IDs to those who are less well off for free-of-charge?
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a very vocal minority that views any attempt by the government to make any ID proof that the New World Order exists. There's also a pretty decent sized part of the Evangelical movement that sees those IDs as potentially the literal "mark of the beast" from revelations. Additionally a part of the Republican strategy is to disenfranchise via selectively reducing access to valid existing IDs while cranking up vo…
> Additionally a part of the Republican strategy is to disenfranchise via selectively reducing access to valid existing IDs while cranking up voting requirements of those IDs. Can't the goverment provide the IDs to those who are less well off for free-of-charge?
It could, but a Republican government won't.
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#18Completely off-topic: If you scroll down past the linked article and onto the next article, the URL automatically changes (from /google-is-bringing-electronic-ids-to-android to /cisco-open-sources-mindmeld-conversational-ai-platform ). I've never seen this type of behavior from a web page before.
If you really wanna be irked, go visit techcrunch.com.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a very vocal minority that views any attempt by the government to make any ID proof that the New World Order exists. There's also a pretty decent sized part of the Evangelical movement that sees those IDs as potentially the literal "mark of the beast" from revelations. Additionally a part of the Republican strategy is to disenfranchise via selectively reducing access to valid existing IDs while cranking up vo…
> Additionally a part of the Republican strategy is to disenfranchise via selectively reducing access to valid existing IDs while cranking up voting requirements of those IDs. Can't the goverment provide the IDs to those who are less well off for free-of-charge?
That would require the government to WANT the disenfranchised to have voting IDs.
Republicans claim it's "Common Sense", but see here for how it's entirely fucked up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFOwlMCdto
Re: Google Is Bringing Electronic IDs to Android
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a very vocal minority that views any attempt by the government to make any ID proof that the New World Order exists. There's also a pretty decent sized part of the Evangelical movement that sees those IDs as potentially the literal "mark of the beast" from revelations. Additionally a part of the Republican strategy is to disenfranchise via selectively reducing access to valid existing IDs while cranking up vo…
> Additionally a part of the Republican strategy is to disenfranchise via selectively reducing access to valid existing IDs while cranking up voting requirements of those IDs. Can't the goverment provide the IDs to those who are less well off for free-of-charge?
They could, but that's specifically against their strategy here. In fact they generally selectively make IDs harder to get.
https://www.al.com/opinion/2017/01/as_it_turns_out_bentleys_...