headline should be "that $300 doorbell is now a paperweight".
in the future it will be "that $8000 trunk car driving computer is now a paperweight".
Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API
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#12What's the point of creating an ecosystem if you won't support it? Typical Google. I understand shutting down or refocusing services that don't work. But decisions like this or to shut down Inbox make no sense to me. It feels like complete disregard of the user base.
They care for their user base.
Their user base just isn't us people using their services.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct: https://nest.com/whats-happening/#im-a-works-with-nest-devel...
Another reminder to never buy a "smart" device. At the end of the day they are pretty dumb.
I have Wemo smart plugs that I have plugged in all sorts of stuff like Heater, Lamps, and TV, etc connected to my Google Home and Home Mini. And I'd advise anyone to think twice before buying smart plugs or smart devices. There are so many bugs creating so many complications that I feel they are not worth using. You'd need to reconnect them with WEMO app time and again, restart these frequently if they just stop working and even you would not know what to do with them when a failed firmware upgrade will make your smart plug useless!
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#14What's the point of creating an ecosystem if you won't support it? Typical Google. I understand shutting down or refocusing services that don't work. But decisions like this or to shut down Inbox make no sense to me. It feels like complete disregard of the user base.
They don't care about their user base, they care about branding and profits. If this sells more units then they will go with that.
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#15headline should be "that $300 doorbell is now a paperweight". in the future it will be "that $8000 trunk car driving computer is now a paperweight".
That would be a very large piece of paper!
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another reminder to never buy a "smart" device. At the end of the day they are pretty dumb.
I have Wemo smart plugs that I have plugged in all sorts of stuff like Heater, Lamps, and TV, etc connected to my Google Home and Home Mini. And I'd advise anyone to think twice before buying smart plugs or smart devices. There are so many bugs creating so many complications that I feel they are not worth using. You'd need to reconnect them with WEMO app time and again, restart these frequently if they just stop work…
The sad thing is it's not rocket science.
It's just terrible, barely working, shoehorned in buggy drivers, "shipped as soon as it can appear functional" code.
You could take a microcontroller, write something simple, and have something that worked to a few 9s.
Instead, IoT vendors spend their time optimizing their data collection and monetization platforms.
"You had one job..." would be a good epitaph for the entire industry.
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#17What's the point of creating an ecosystem if you won't support it? Typical Google. I understand shutting down or refocusing services that don't work. But decisions like this or to shut down Inbox make no sense to me. It feels like complete disregard of the user base.
They care for their user base. Their user base just isn't us people using their services.
At some point there has to be a value in marketing for keeping people happy, right? At least mothball upgrades and leave this running "slowly" or _anything_ other than just shut everything down for reasons...
My daughter wrote a letter to a clothing manufacturer about how the embroidered lettering was falling apart on a brand name shirt. They sent her a new one, for free.
That is good marketing. What Google is doing? Slowly turning their brand into the "don't trust us with anything long term" brand.
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#18What's the point of creating an ecosystem if you won't support it? Typical Google. I understand shutting down or refocusing services that don't work. But decisions like this or to shut down Inbox make no sense to me. It feels like complete disregard of the user base.
I think it's because that AdSense revenue is so sweet and so easy that nothing else is as interesting to the organization. Pretty difficult benchmark for competing products to show their value. It's like an oil rich nation investing in unrelated industries for which they have no history or pedigree in order to build a sustainable future.
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#19Hey, at least they are going to roll "Nest" accounts into "Google" accounts so hopefully the app can stop asking me to set up sms based 2fa everytime I try to change the temp.
All that employee stock from the acquisition must be finished vesting.
Re: Google Is Turning Off the Works-with-Nest API
#20What's the point of creating an ecosystem if you won't support it? Typical Google. I understand shutting down or refocusing services that don't work. But decisions like this or to shut down Inbox make no sense to me. It feels like complete disregard of the user base.
Google has done this again and again with their APIs and services other than their main search and advertising business. For me as a developer Google has a bad name now and I'd never invest my time developing something in their ecosystem or worse have my business depend on it. They do not care about their user base as is shown even when they shut down paid services. Which is why even with all their promises about Google Cloud I still don't trust it. When one says that about Google Cloud you get this immune response that it is different, but it is prefixed with Google which is a bad name when it comes to keeping third party services or APIs up paid or unpaid.