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Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#11

Post by nickjj »

I gave up on Hyper about 8 months ago after only using it for a few weeks.

2.1 was close to unusable on Windows. Major prompt / cursor bugs (it would disappear all the time), ~200ms input latency (but a terminal's only job is to make typing feel awesome) and it took 5 seconds+ to open on an SSD. I reported a number of those issues but the maintainers didn't even respond even though people were commenting that it was a problem for them too.

Since then I've moved to wsltty for WSL and it's great when combined with tmux. Lightning fast with all of the terminal features you could ever want thanks to tmux (separate windows (ie. tabs), split panes, buffer searching and session saving / restoring). Close to zero input latency too as of wsltty 3.0.0.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#12

Post by egeozcan »

neilsimp1 wrote: post #7

I have been using Cmder on Windows for a while, but Hyper has also looked really good. With the announcement of the new Windows Terminal, I wonder if these projects will become irrelevant. The only reason I use Cmder is for tabs, and once I have Windows Terminal with that feature, I doubt I would ever use Cmder or Hyper.

IMHO windows needs a beginner friendly & built-in tiling window manager. Then nobody would care about the lack of tabs in cmd or explorer.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#13

Post by HereBeBeasties »

beardicus wrote: post #3
beardicus wrote: post #2

In before the JavaScript gripes begin. How about we skip the Electron whinging this time? I haven't switched to Hyper because I have found it a bit pokey and that doesn't work for me, but I'll still give this one a try. I'm curious to hear about any interesting reasons other people _have_ chosen Hyper, or particularly cool things it enables by being built on web technologies. Anybody?

Update: Hyper 3 feels super-fast. Startup and new tabs are somewhat sluggish still but actual rendering responsiveness seems real nice.

Sad commentary on the state of the world when you feel the need to comment on the speed with which a computer can pain text to the screen.

If you read their changelog you'll see that Hyper 3.0 uses WebGL to achieve this.

OpenGL. To draw text at a reasonable speed. It's not individually an insane thing to do within the context of Electron, etc. but take five steps back and talk about using a sledgehammer to crack a nut...

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by nickjj »

neilsimp1 wrote: post #7

I have been using Cmder on Windows for a while, but Hyper has also looked really good. With the announcement of the new Windows Terminal, I wonder if these projects will become irrelevant. The only reason I use Cmder is for tabs, and once I have Windows Terminal with that feature, I doubt I would ever use Cmder or Hyper.

If you adapt using tmux then you are free to pick whatever terminal you want because tabs / split panes are done very well in tmux.

For example I tried nearly every terminal on Windows and ultimately use wsltty because tmux offers nearly instant tabs and split panes, buffer searching and everything else you could want in a terminal.

Here's a whole write up on the comparisons: https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/conemu-vs-hyper-vs-terminus-v...

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#15

Post by Supermighty »

1f97 wrote: post #9
thosakwe wrote: post #8

Honestly speaking, I started using Hyper again this week after 3.0.0 came out, and I like it a lot. I'm not really sure if there's any actual benefit to using it as opposed to the regular Mac terminal, but the colors are bit easier on my eyes at night. The only thing I'm missing is the ability to move tabs around.

why not use iTerm if on OS X?

I use iTerm. There are alternatives that are faster, like Alacritty, but iTerm has a ton of features. It's hard to beat.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by ixtli »

1f97 wrote: post #9
thosakwe wrote: post #8

Honestly speaking, I started using Hyper again this week after 3.0.0 came out, and I like it a lot. I'm not really sure if there's any actual benefit to using it as opposed to the regular Mac terminal, but the colors are bit easier on my eyes at night. The only thing I'm missing is the ability to move tabs around.

why not use iTerm if on OS X?

Agree. iTerm2 has been doing rendering with opengl for years. If you're on OS X its unclear why something like Hyper is necessary.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#17

Post by 1f97 »

Supermighty wrote: post #15
1f97 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why not use iTerm if on OS X?

I use iTerm. There are alternatives that are faster, like Alacritty, but iTerm has a ton of features. It's hard to beat.

out of curiosity, could you give an example of where Alacritty would be faster than iTerm in a day-to-day environment?

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

#18

Post by ivolimmen »

1f97 wrote: post #9
thosakwe wrote: post #8

Honestly speaking, I started using Hyper again this week after 3.0.0 came out, and I like it a lot. I'm not really sure if there's any actual benefit to using it as opposed to the regular Mac terminal, but the colors are bit easier on my eyes at night. The only thing I'm missing is the ability to move tabs around.

why not use iTerm if on OS X?

iTerm is not that fast for debugging output. I switched to kitty. It sometimes crashes and ssh does not work completely but the speed makes up for it.

Re: Hyper 3.0.0

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Post by neilsimp1 »

nickjj wrote: post #14
neilsimp1 wrote: post #7

I have been using Cmder on Windows for a while, but Hyper has also looked really good. With the announcement of the new Windows Terminal, I wonder if these projects will become irrelevant. The only reason I use Cmder is for tabs, and once I have Windows Terminal with that feature, I doubt I would ever use Cmder or Hyper.

If you adapt using tmux then you are free to pick whatever terminal you want because tabs / split panes are done very well in tmux. For example I tried nearly every terminal on Windows and ultimately use wsltty because tmux offers nearly instant tabs and split panes, buffer searching and everything else you could want in a terminal. Here's a whole write up on the comparisons: https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/conemu-vs-…

Perhaps. I love tmux for multiple terminals in one SSH connection, but I'm a big fan of tabbed browsing, tabbed file explorers, etc., so having tabs in my terminal just makes sense. I could probably get used to tmux handling tabs and split panes all the time.
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