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Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Re: Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Post by netcan »

sschueller wrote: post #2

While I am saddened by this decision I hope he now is able to get proper medical care and fight the case against extradition. As long as he is not on London streets the US can't just snatch him up. [1] [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case

There may not be and extradition case. It doesn't seem like Sweden is still keen, and on balance, the US mightn't want him either at this point.

It's not a guaranteed conviction. The president has an embarrassing YouTube reel where he "loves WikiLeaks" 50 times. It'll drag the contents of contentious leaks back into the spotlight. It could be more convenient to let it go.

Re: Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Post by sneak »

Reminder:

(the following in quote marks are direct quotes from the alleged victims.)

On 17 August, SW wrote "JA did not want to use a condom".

On 20 August, while at the police station, SW wrote that she "did not want to put any charges on Julian Assange" but that "the police were keen on getting their hands on him".

According to the statement she was "chocked (sic shocked) when they arrested him" because she "only wanted him to take [an STD test]".

On 21 August, SW wrote that she "did not want to accuse" Julian Assange "for anything" and that it was the "police who made up the charges (sic)"

On 23 August, SW wrote that it was the police, not herself, who started the whole thing.

On 26 August, AA wrote that they ought to sell their stories for money to a newspaper.

On 28 August, AA wrote that they had a contact on the biggest Swedish tabloid and SW wrote that their lawyer negotiated with the tabloid.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-07/julian-assange-goe...

Re: Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Post by Veen »

yasp wrote: post #8

Craig Murray's reaction is worth reading [1]. I realize he does not respond to the bail breach directly, but rather to what precipitated this chain of events. > If the Swedish allegations against Julian Assange were genuine and not simply a ruse to arrest him for extradition to the United States, where is the arrest warrant now from Sweden and what are the charges? > Only the more minor allegation has passed the stat…

The answer to Murray's questions is in the article.

Prosecutors dropped the rape investigation in 2017 because they were unable to formally notify him of allegations while he was staying in the embassy.

They are considering re-opening the investigation.

Re: Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Post by hhh »

Gaelan wrote: post #4
sschueller wrote: post #2

While I am saddened by this decision I hope he now is able to get proper medical care and fight the case against extradition. As long as he is not on London streets the US can't just snatch him up. [1] [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case

Has the US ever “snatched up” someone from the middle of London?

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Re: Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Post by jmkni »

yasp wrote: post #8

Craig Murray's reaction is worth reading [1]. I realize he does not respond to the bail breach directly, but rather to what precipitated this chain of events. > If the Swedish allegations against Julian Assange were genuine and not simply a ruse to arrest him for extradition to the United States, where is the arrest warrant now from Sweden and what are the charges? > Only the more minor allegation has passed the stat…

I really hope Sweden calls his bluff here, because the idea that the Swedish allegations were a ruse is idiotic.

Re: Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Post by fit2rule »

sschueller wrote: post #2

While I am saddened by this decision I hope he now is able to get proper medical care and fight the case against extradition. As long as he is not on London streets the US can't just snatch him up. [1] [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case

Corollary: As long as he is in a maximum security prison controlled by imperial powers, the public will not be aware of the brainwashing/programming/coercion he is going to be subjected to ..

Will we see the same Assange in 50 weeks? This is more than enough time for the masters of MK ULTRA to subvert his will and turn him into a puppet.

Re: Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Post by Veen »

guitarbill wrote: post #7

> His continued residence at the embassy and bringing him to justice had cost taxpayers £16m, she [Judge Deborah Taylor] added. Disgracefully dishonest in multiple ways. Not to mention, the police force's continued incompetence should have no bearing (maybe it didn't).

You haven't said what is dishonest? Did they do their sums wrong? Did it not cost £16m?

Re: Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Post by PaulRobinson »

yasp wrote: post #8

Craig Murray's reaction is worth reading [1]. I realize he does not respond to the bail breach directly, but rather to what precipitated this chain of events. > If the Swedish allegations against Julian Assange were genuine and not simply a ruse to arrest him for extradition to the United States, where is the arrest warrant now from Sweden and what are the charges? > Only the more minor allegation has passed the stat…

Referring to "Blairite MPs" in this context is so laughable it undermines this person as a serious political commentator.

Re: Julian Assange: Wikileaks co-founder jailed over bail breach

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Post by yasp »

Veen wrote: post #13
yasp wrote: post #8

Craig Murray's reaction is worth reading [1]. I realize he does not respond to the bail breach directly, but rather to what precipitated this chain of events. > If the Swedish allegations against Julian Assange were genuine and not simply a ruse to arrest him for extradition to the United States, where is the arrest warrant now from Sweden and what are the charges? > Only the more minor allegation has passed the stat…

The answer to Murray's questions is in the article. Prosecutors dropped the rape investigation in 2017 because they were unable to formally notify him of allegations while he was staying in the embassy. They are considering re-opening the investigation.

So was a warrant issued or not? In the US, at least, being "unable to formally notify [someone] of allegations" would not prevent a warrant from being issued.
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