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Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran was Iran's top Stuxnet expert

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Re: Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran was Iran's top Stuxnet expert

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Note that this was published right after the attacks, and the only source for the claim that he was responsible for stuxnet cleanup was "Exclusive from DEBKAfile's [unnamed] intelligence sources".

Many blogs republished the report (of course) but no other source has emerged, and no paper of record has suggested it was true.

Re: Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran was Iran's top Stuxnet expert

#13
post #8

I don't know how reliable a source "DEBKAfile" is, but just in general, it makes me very uncomfortable that civilian scientists may possibly now be considered legitimate targets for assassination or kidnapping by the US, Israel or others.

If you're a scientist working on weapons systems (which is a debatable claim in this instance), you're not a civilian.

So you think that, for example, a University prof. who gets grants and funding from a countries defense department is a legitimate target?

Re: Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran was Iran's top Stuxnet expert

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a scientist working on weapons systems (which is a debatable claim in this instance), you're not a civilian.

how many of those scientists realize that?

I imagine the head of cybersecurity for Iran's nuclear systems was aware that he was the head of cybersecurity for Iran's nuclear systems.

Re: Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran was Iran's top Stuxnet expert

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post #13
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a scientist working on weapons systems (which is a debatable claim in this instance), you're not a civilian.

So you think that, for example, a University prof. who gets grants and funding from a countries defense department is a legitimate target?

Yes. Attacking such a professor would be an act of war, but it wouldn't be particularly reprehensible as far as acts of war go.

Re: Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran was Iran's top Stuxnet expert

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post #4

This is crazy if it's true. Is there any corroborating story from a (I hate to put it this way) more mainstream/trusted source? I'm not sure about this Debka. There's some spelling errors and I've never heard of them.

Debka is basically a Middle East rumor mill. Sometimes they're dead on the money and sometimes they're wildly spinning pure fiction.

Re: Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran was Iran's top Stuxnet expert

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post #8

I don't know how reliable a source "DEBKAfile" is, but just in general, it makes me very uncomfortable that civilian scientists may possibly now be considered legitimate targets for assassination or kidnapping by the US, Israel or others.

If you're a scientist working on weapons systems (which is a debatable claim in this instance), you're not a civilian.

According to Iran, scientists aren't working on a weapons system, they are part of a civilian program to produce nuclear power plants. Following your logic, the people who competed in the DARPA grand challenge are not civilians and are legitimate targets for assassination by another world power.

Re: Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran was Iran's top Stuxnet expert

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post #3

Interesting times when people are targeted because of their intelligence in a given matter

I think that was this way through all history:

* Main achitect of pyramid in Egypt was buried together in it(bad that I can't find link to that)

* Quite interesting story of Denis Papin (http://radian.org/notebook/boatmen-and-cyberlaw)

* Here is list in wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Murdered_scientists (while not all of them were killed because of their work)

Re: Nuclear scientist killed in Tehran was Iran's top Stuxnet expert

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a scientist working on weapons systems (which is a debatable claim in this instance), you're not a civilian.

According to Iran, scientists aren't working on a weapons system, they are part of a civilian program to produce nuclear power plants. Following your logic, the people who competed in the DARPA grand challenge are not civilians and are legitimate targets for assassination by another world power.

> civilian program to produce nuclear power plants

Desperately needed in a country with the world's third-largest oil reserves.

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