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Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#11
> First release of unwind(8), a validating, recursive nameserver for 127.0.0.1. It is particularly suitable for laptops moving between networks.

When systemd-resolvd was first released it was the biggest mistake ever to write a new recursive resolver instead of using unbound or dnsmasq. Also since DNS ".. wasn't broken, so it did not need fixing".

I wonder if unwind will be received with the same hostility.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

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> Xorg(1), the X window server, is no longer installed setuid. xenodm(1) should be used to start X. That is really great!

Does this mean that I can’t startx on a machine that I rarely use X on? Is a display manager now required for running X? From a security standpoint this makes sense, of course, but how are you supposed to deal with a half-desktop-half-server system?

You can still do this, just through the command mentioned above. SUID binaries are a serious risk; good on the openbsd folks for trying to remove one.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#13

> First release of unwind(8), a validating, recursive nameserver for 127.0.0.1. It is particularly suitable for laptops moving between networks. When systemd-resolvd was first released it was the biggest mistake ever to write a new recursive resolver instead of using unbound or dnsmasq. Also since DNS ".. wasn't broken, so it did not need fixing". I wonder if unwind will be received with the same hostility.

Seems to be well-received: https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20190128061321

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#14
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Been running 6.5 snapshots in my travel laptop for some weeks and everything just works. The laptop is a ThinkPad X200 which is a bit slow for my needs, but upgrading it to ThinkPad X230 later this week should help. I really enjoy how simple the system is after all these years with Linux. I will always continue using Linux in my main computers, but for surfing, some hobby programming and as a travel OS OpenBSD defini…

Odd that you put this on a the travel laptop and not the desktop, I imagine most OS polygot its the inverse for things like battery life, touchpad drivers, webcam driver. Am curious why not make the switch on desktop? Same semantics? Same dotfiles? Do you use the same window manager across both linux and openbsd? Also what's the "much nicer" you refer to.. Please sell me

Oh, I need Docker a lot. And our target platforms are Linux and OSX, so I just want to have some kind of standard OS on Desktop.

Also stuff like Signal, Spotify etc. I still haven't been able to get running on OpenBSD, maybe some day...

Nicer in a way that setting up the wifi, suspend et. al. just works. And is very easy.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd that you put this on a the travel laptop and not the desktop, I imagine most OS polygot its the inverse for things like battery life, touchpad drivers, webcam driver. Am curious why not make the switch on desktop? Same semantics? Same dotfiles? Do you use the same window manager across both linux and openbsd? Also what's the "much nicer" you refer to.. Please sell me

Oh, I need Docker a lot. And our target platforms are Linux and OSX, so I just want to have some kind of standard OS on Desktop. Also stuff like Signal, Spotify etc. I still haven't been able to get running on OpenBSD, maybe some day... Nicer in a way that setting up the wifi, suspend et. al. just works. And is very easy.

Ah okay, Docker would be a sticking point for me too. Thanks for sharing

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#16

> First release of unwind(8), a validating, recursive nameserver for 127.0.0.1. It is particularly suitable for laptops moving between networks. When systemd-resolvd was first released it was the biggest mistake ever to write a new recursive resolver instead of using unbound or dnsmasq. Also since DNS ".. wasn't broken, so it did not need fixing". I wonder if unwind will be received with the same hostility.

See https://man.openbsd.org/unwind.8

And also in general, I'm far less concerned about software released by a well-established security-minded team than I am about whatever Lennart wants to ship...

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#17

> First release of unwind(8), a validating, recursive nameserver for 127.0.0.1. It is particularly suitable for laptops moving between networks. When systemd-resolvd was first released it was the biggest mistake ever to write a new recursive resolver instead of using unbound or dnsmasq. Also since DNS ".. wasn't broken, so it did not need fixing". I wonder if unwind will be received with the same hostility.

People are probably less upset because it doesn't take the "systemd all the things" approach of getting rid of huge chunks of old stuff for what is ostensibly an init system. I don't have much of an issue with systemd (except binary logging; I hate that) and just put up with it, but the reasons for which people objected to systemd don't seem to extend to this.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#18
Of all of the places a Bee and Puppycat fan might expect to find Natasha Allegri's work ... release art (?!) for OpenBSD 6.5 is perhaps the last I would have expected.

Re: OpenBSD 6.5

#19
Sorry for noob question, but why would one use OpenBSD instead of FreeBSD? I like latter, but also hear good things about former, although there are some limitations (e.g. no ZFS).

Thank you in advance.

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