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Re: The Singular Power of Writing

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My maiden name is Irish in origin. At one time, Irish Americans were an othered group. Now, they are just a subset of white.

I have a German immigrant mother with very olive skin. Her skin color is very close to that of some light skinned blacks. But, of course, she's "white" because she's German.

I have been told my father was 1/16th Cherokee.

I tend to not really fit in with white middle class Americans. I never really have. I'm too culturally different from them.

Of course, people of color don't want to claim me as one of theirs. Natives are extremely critical of people like me. I'm not really welcome by them.

I've started checking "decline to answer" the race question when filling out forms. The options they provide just don't seem to fit my reality and there isn't enough space to explain it. If I did, no doubt whoever read it would promptly conclude that I'm white and my discomfort with the question is neurotic and not legitimate.

Re: The Singular Power of Writing

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My maiden name is Irish in origin. At one time, Irish Americans were an othered group. Now, they are just a subset of white. I have a German immigrant mother with very olive skin. Her skin color is very close to that of some light skinned blacks. But, of course, she's "white" because she's German. I have been told my father was 1/16th Cherokee. I tend to not really fit in with white middle class Americans. I never re…

My father's side of the family is Bohemian (western Czech). I was always curious as to why artsy-hippies use 'bohemian' as an adjective.

Come to find out, French aristocratic youth rebelled and started dressing like the colorful, poor Romani (getting the label haute bohème) and the general stereotype that said poor Eastern Europeans must also obviously be from the nearest "eastern" country.

So, cultural appropriation and misidentification going back to the 19th century (an insult to both the Romani and the Bohemians).

Also strangely, I recall my father's older relatives frequently telling terrible jokes about and referencing others of the same identity as "bohunks" which I didn't discover until a few years ago was a racial slur. In a way, their adoptation of it seems to have been similar to the frequent use of the n-word in black hip-hop, rap and edgier pop culture.

There are similar stories about my mother's side of the family. The world is a strange, complex place, and somehow boiling that family history down to "white" just doesn't do it justice.

Re: The Singular Power of Writing

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This is a fantastic interview.

I was so excited to share this with everyone I know. I think about a great friend with a black father, now deceased. I always imagined what his father he might have related to life during a time when his marriage was illegal. This article really stimulated ideas like the way I imagined it was for him might not at all have been the case, which is wonderful to think about. And how my friend's relatives might have lost so much in their bigotry.

Then, I was left with this harrowing thought: what's the payoff for anyone to give up their identities (including racial identities, but also every other identity that binds us). I mean, it's a wonderful idea and wonderful documented here, but not everyone will move to France and investigate their thoughts. That made me sad. I'm doubtful that most people will read this interview, and doubtful most people that do read it will radically change their belief systems. I must include myself in that assessment to be honest.

Re: The Singular Power of Writing

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My maiden name is Irish in origin. At one time, Irish Americans were an othered group. Now, they are just a subset of white. I have a German immigrant mother with very olive skin. Her skin color is very close to that of some light skinned blacks. But, of course, she's "white" because she's German. I have been told my father was 1/16th Cherokee. I tend to not really fit in with white middle class Americans. I never re…

My father's side of the family is Bohemian (western Czech). I was always curious as to why artsy-hippies use 'bohemian' as an adjective. Come to find out, French aristocratic youth rebelled and started dressing like the colorful, poor Romani (getting the label haute bohème ) and the general stereotype that said poor Eastern Europeans must also obviously be from the nearest "eastern" country. So, cultural appropriatio…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_and_the_G....

In the New York and northern New Jersey suburbs 67,000 mortgages were insured by the G.I. Bill, but fewer than 100 were taken out by non-whites.

I grew up in Columbus, Georgia in a house purchased using military benefits. My part Cherokee father was extremely white-passing, yet spent 18.5 years of his 26.5 year military career overseas.

He's no longer alive. I can't ask him if he did that to escape racism in America.

What if he hadn't successfully downplayed his part Native heritage? Would I have even grown up in a nice house in the suburbs?

After my father died, I tripped across a photo of a full-blooded Iroquois actor that looked uncannily like my father. I was already not comfortable with our social construct of race. But I just no longer can comfortably answer that question with stating "I'm white."

What makes me white? My skin color? If so, why is my darker skinned mother also white?

My socioeconomic background? I could argue that grows out of my father successfully downplaying his Native heritage. So does that make my whiteness a fiction? Perhaps even a lie?

My father made his own constructs. Which constructs are more "real" or more valid? His? Those of a nebulous racist thing we call society? Where is this thing we call society? Can I go talk to it?

No, society is just a sum total of something that grows out of a group of individuals. Individuals like my father.

My father chose to protect himself and his family. I can't find moral defect in that decision.

But I also find it increasingly offensive to even try to answer a question about my heritage with an answer from a canned list of arbitrary answers rooted in a long history of social BS where none of those answers remotely fits anything I would identify as.

I have long association with American military culture. Military dependent is not an option.

I was born and raised in The Deep South. Southerner is not an option.

I'm part German. German American is not an option.

I'm part Cherokee, but only a very small part. I don't even know what to call that. Mixed race doesn't really seem to fit this case. But why not? I look part Native to my German relatives. How many generations does it take to "erase" my Native blood so it no longer counts?

I'm not interested in trying to officially join the Cherokee Nation. I'm not interested in trying to qualify for scholarship money reserved for Natives. But isn't calling me white just another way of saying "those people" don't count?

If you aren't full-blooded Native, your Native ancestors don't count? Doesn't that further deepen a history of genocide? Many Natives were murdered by European settlers. Do we also need to murder any memory of them? Any trace that survived in mixed bloodlines?

Do we need to deny that "those people" are a part of us people, even if only a small part?

Why?

Re: The Singular Power of Writing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My father's side of the family is Bohemian (western Czech). I was always curious as to why artsy-hippies use 'bohemian' as an adjective. Come to find out, French aristocratic youth rebelled and started dressing like the colorful, poor Romani (getting the label haute bohème ) and the general stereotype that said poor Eastern Europeans must also obviously be from the nearest "eastern" country. So, cultural appropriatio…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_and_the_G.... In the New York and northern New Jersey suburbs 67,000 mortgages were insured by the G.I. Bill, but fewer than 100 were taken out by non-whites. I grew up in Columbus, Georgia in a house purchased using military benefits. My part Cherokee father was extremely white-passing, yet spent 18.5 years of his 26.5 year military career overseas. He's no longer al…

I'm a second generation American, and acknowledge that I am a legacy of my heritage. However, I do not really define myself as such, as I am more than just the sum product of genes.

My brother was in Czechia on a recent business trip, and between his looks and last name, everyone there assumed he was a local... until he opened his mouth, at least.

If I am asked on a form, I'll typically put decline to answer or other.

However, I also acknowledge that how to reconcile the history of your family with your own identity as an individual is a difficult and personal decision... especially when the law is involved, such as / for example around tribal memberships.

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