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Types will be part of Ruby 3 stdlib source

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Re: Types will be part of Ruby 3 stdlib source

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darkdimius wrote: post #7
_hardwaregeek wrote: post #6

Very cool! I didn't think this would happen, as Matz has expressed disinterest in adding type annotations. However, keeping an open mind and reconsidering one's positions are the hallmarks of a great leader :D I worked on a summer project to add type annotations to Ruby. Didn't get very far since I ran into some challenges with the internals of the parser and the parser library, Ripper. I'm extremely interested in se…

Indeed Sorbet does have literal types for strings and Ruby symbols. We're still figuring out the details and converging on a common type system for Ruby3, but we've found them super useful, as you rightly point out! And +1 on the Ruby renaissance! Super excited about all the exciting things that are currently being built!

I can't wait for Sorbet's open sourcing! Ngl I tried decompiling the wasm binary just for fun. Not that it ended up being readable haha

Re: Types will be part of Ruby 3 stdlib source

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Post by masklinn »

inopinatus wrote: post #5

It looks like they've conflated type with class. If so, that's the antithesis of duck typing. The impedence mismatch to Ruby seems to me an overwhelming contraindication.

> It looks like they've conflated type with class.

Classes are types by default, but you can define non-class types as well: https://sorbet.org/docs/abstract

Re: Types will be part of Ruby 3 stdlib source

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Post by darkdimius »

_hardwaregeek wrote: post #11
darkdimius wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed Sorbet does have literal types for strings and Ruby symbols. We're still figuring out the details and converging on a common type system for Ruby3, but we've found them super useful, as you rightly point out! And +1 on the Ruby renaissance! Super excited about all the exciting things that are currently being built!

I can't wait for Sorbet's open sourcing! Ngl I tried decompiling the wasm binary just for fun. Not that it ended up being readable haha

We're currently looking for beta users! Reach out to us at sorbet@stripe.com. If you describe your team&codebase in the email, it will help us figure out what cohort to include you in.

Re: Types will be part of Ruby 3 stdlib source

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Post by darkdimius »

We're collaborating with @yukihiro_matz, @mametter, @soutaro and Jeff Forster to make sure that types are not disruptive to Ruby. Thus, types are optional. The intention is to deliver value for unmodified Ruby programs. Hear more from Matz at https://youtu.be/cmOt9HhszCI?t=2148
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