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How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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Re: How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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20 points in 58 minutes looks like it gets you on the top of HN, so as far as content marketing strategies "get your friends to upvote your HN submission" doesn't seem half bad.

HN has a lot of anti-voting ring protection, so I doubt it would have stayed in #2 for long if this were the case.

Re: How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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You can keep trying to hack Google all you want, and you can definitely be successful for short periods of time if you invest enough time and money. But there's also the difficult but straight forward way out -- write content that people want to read. Digital Ocean, Cloudflare, and others have adopted this strategy with great success. Writing good quality content takes time, good copywriters, subject experts, editors…

To be fair, that’s essentially what this article is saying, particularly the parts about Google now being able to track engagement and thus using that signal to boost results rather than just backlinks or domain rank.

Re: How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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I hope google catches onto the fact that, as a user, I don't want a bunch a dwell time when I'm looking for a recipe. Right now the winning strategy seems to be to write really long stories, forcing the user to search in the article endlessly before giving the recipes

Re: How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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You can keep trying to hack Google all you want, and you can definitely be successful for short periods of time if you invest enough time and money. But there's also the difficult but straight forward way out -- write content that people want to read. Digital Ocean, Cloudflare, and others have adopted this strategy with great success. Writing good quality content takes time, good copywriters, subject experts, editors…

Not if you r niche is too small for Google to recognize

Re: How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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post #12

You can keep trying to hack Google all you want, and you can definitely be successful for short periods of time if you invest enough time and money. But there's also the difficult but straight forward way out -- write content that people want to read. Digital Ocean, Cloudflare, and others have adopted this strategy with great success. Writing good quality content takes time, good copywriters, subject experts, editors…

To be fair, that’s essentially what this article is saying, particularly the parts about Google now being able to track engagement and thus using that signal to boost results rather than just backlinks or domain rank.

I think Google these days link the information they get from Google Analytics and their DNS service requests to boost some domains and links over the others.

Re: How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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post #11
post #3

20 points in 58 minutes looks like it gets you on the top of HN, so as far as content marketing strategies "get your friends to upvote your HN submission" doesn't seem half bad.

HN has a lot of anti-voting ring protection, so I doubt it would have stayed in #2 for long if this were the case.

There’s been some talk about this in other threads, but I’m still confused how it could tell the difference between a voting ring and a legitimately popular article without having many false positives.

Re: How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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I hope google catches onto the fact that, as a user, I don't want a bunch a dwell time when I'm looking for a recipe. Right now the winning strategy seems to be to write really long stories, forcing the user to search in the article endlessly before giving the recipes

This might be a blind spot for Google because the longer you stay on any given webpage, the better it is for them, since 50% of all webpages have ads served by Google or one of their subsidiaries.

I wonder if this will be Google’s downfall one day. Some AI enabled competitor will come up with a search engine that delivers exactly what you’re looking for instead of the most engaging content.

Re: How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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For nutrition, there's a ton of really bad clow quality half true content that ranks really well in Google because people spend time and engage with that content

And it's all garbage whose authors and publishers deserve a special place in hell, for propagating bullshit that's occasionally dangerous to health, often wastes money, and it's a drag when dealing with friends and family members who end up believing it.

Not just in nutrition - in pretty much everything pertaining things common to all humans - health, cooking, childbirth, etc., the search results are dominated by information-free garbage that wastes a lot of time for people seeking information.

Re: How do startups get their content marketing to work?

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post #16
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN has a lot of anti-voting ring protection, so I doubt it would have stayed in #2 for long if this were the case.

There’s been some talk about this in other threads, but I’m still confused how it could tell the difference between a voting ring and a legitimately popular article without having many false positives.

Content marketing is usually easy enough to tell; even if upvoted by a voting ring, it'll be mercilessly flagged down.
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