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Tesla Shakes Up Model 3 Lineup

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Re: Tesla Shakes Up Model 3 Lineup

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It must be that Tesla is losing money on the base model.

The couldn’t be as they haven’t produced a single one.

Maybe they figured out they would be losing money, which is why they kept delaying manufacturing it?

This whole "Standard Plus model is so much more popular anyway" is a sick joke.

Re: Tesla Shakes Up Model 3 Lineup

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Per the new lease:

"Please note, customers who choose leasing over owning will not have the option to purchase their car at the end of the lease, because with full autonomy coming in the future via an over-the-air software update, we plan to use those vehicles in the Tesla ride-hailing network."

Elon once again promising fully autonomous vehicles in 3 years.

Also, isn't this a rental? A lease normally has a residual, so you can choose whether to buy the car.

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Here's the actual Tesla announcement: https://www.tesla.com/blog/update-our-vehicle-lineup "Given the popularity of the Standard Plus relative to the Standard, we have made the decision to simplify our production operations to better optimize cost, minimize complexity and streamline operations. As a result, Model 3 Standard will now be a software-limited version of the Standard Plus, and we are taking it off the onli…

The next paragraph is interesting too:

"Its range will be limited by 10%, and several features will be disabled via software (including our onboard music streaming service, navigation with live traffic visualization, and heated seats). Similar to other software-limited vehicles produced in the past, Standard customers will have the option to upgrade to a Standard Plus at any time. Similarly, anyone who has already bought Standard Plus and wants to convert to Standard is welcome to do so, and we will provide a refund for the difference in cost."

It's pretty confident to offer both upgrade and downgrade options between the two.

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I've been considering a Tesla. Buying the base model with zero options just never really crossed my mind. Seems that's the case for a lot of Tesla buyers. For me it's like buying a base laptop. For my personal one, I'll always max the SSD and memory.

For me, the base model is all I've considered. Mainly because I want a electric car without any bells and whistles.

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Maybe if they hadn't included $5,000+ worth of (fake) "full self-driving" hardware by default into all Model 3s, they wouldn't have needed to do this, and maybe they would've been able to make the base Model 3 a little cheaper, too, which I'm sure would've positively impacted its popularity (I think a $29,900 base Model 3 would be far more popular than Standard Plus). I could understand all the other carmakers being…

That hardware is necessary for safety features included in every car, and I seriously doubt it costs anywhere near that much money.

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Here's the actual Tesla announcement: https://www.tesla.com/blog/update-our-vehicle-lineup "Given the popularity of the Standard Plus relative to the Standard, we have made the decision to simplify our production operations to better optimize cost, minimize complexity and streamline operations. As a result, Model 3 Standard will now be a software-limited version of the Standard Plus, and we are taking it off the onli…

I don't understand. Will they be selling the standard then ? The quote and headline don't seem to match. And no, I haven't read the link.

edit: I did read the link and I still don't understand.

Re: Tesla Shakes Up Model 3 Lineup

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post #10
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The couldn’t be as they haven’t produced a single one.

Still could be, as long as their calculated build costs were higher than the advertised price, even if they haven't built one...

they could have lost money if they engineered the changes to the production line that they otherwise would have had to do.

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post #9

Maybe if they hadn't included $5,000+ worth of (fake) "full self-driving" hardware by default into all Model 3s, they wouldn't have needed to do this, and maybe they would've been able to make the base Model 3 a little cheaper, too, which I'm sure would've positively impacted its popularity (I think a $29,900 base Model 3 would be far more popular than Standard Plus). I could understand all the other carmakers being…

The hardware is like $1-2k, the $5k is just what they charge for the feature.

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post #12

Per the new lease: "Please note, customers who choose leasing over owning will not have the option to purchase their car at the end of the lease, because with full autonomy coming in the future via an over-the-air software update, we plan to use those vehicles in the Tesla ride-hailing network." Elon once again promising fully autonomous vehicles in 3 years. Also, isn't this a rental? A lease normally has a residual,…

He’s promised FSD in 2019, just a couple months ago, even though Tesla logged no testing miles in the last 2 years in California: https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-tesla-full-self-drivin...

Re: Tesla Shakes Up Model 3 Lineup

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post #16
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Here's the actual Tesla announcement: https://www.tesla.com/blog/update-our-vehicle-lineup "Given the popularity of the Standard Plus relative to the Standard, we have made the decision to simplify our production operations to better optimize cost, minimize complexity and streamline operations. As a result, Model 3 Standard will now be a software-limited version of the Standard Plus, and we are taking it off the onli…

I don't understand. Will they be selling the standard then ? The quote and headline don't seem to match. And no, I haven't read the link. edit: I did read the link and I still don't understand.

Confusing indeed. Are they just trying to make it harder to buy the cheapest model? That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
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