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China says it wants to eliminate Bitcoin mining

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Re: China says it wants to eliminate Bitcoin mining

#12

Because they finally realized everyone is using bitcoin to exfiltrate currency?

More like they are using cheap subsidized Chinese power prices for something that they weren’t intended for. It’s more of an environmental play (since a lot of that electricity is produced by dirty coal burning).

Funny that they care about the environmental effects when the end result is something they have little control over, less so when it's a state-run or state-affiliated business

Re: China says it wants to eliminate Bitcoin mining

#13
From an energy-consumption standpoint, I'm not too surprised at this. They have better uses for their mostly-non-renewable power generation. This will probably continue the push towards bitcoin mining in places with stable renewables (like hydro and geothermal).

That being said, I just found https://www.coindesk.com/norway-ends-power-tax-subsidy-for-b..., which makes me wonder if current prices would be able to support mining there. Also, at least part of Washington State is interested: https://www.bendbulletin.com/business/6853387-151/central-wa...

Re: China says it wants to eliminate Bitcoin mining

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This will probably crush Bitmain and other Chinese bitcoin mining giants and they will probably move elsewhere, however Chinese courts have said bitcoin itself is legally allowed. Probably what is going to happen is that you can own but you can't mine or even obtain more bitcoins in China. https://www.ccn.com/chinas-merchants-are-legally-allowed-to-...

Bitmain makes huge margins on selling equipment, not mining. They make shovels in the gold rush.

China is a bit less than half of their sales, the rest is global sales, so it will hit them still pretty hard.

Source, their IPO documents: https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/26/bitmain-hong-kong-ipo/

Re: China says it wants to eliminate Bitcoin mining

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like they are using cheap subsidized Chinese power prices for something that they weren’t intended for. It’s more of an environmental play (since a lot of that electricity is produced by dirty coal burning).

Funny that they care about the environmental effects when the end result is something they have little control over, less so when it's a state-run or state-affiliated business

They've taken a huge shift to improve their environment. This is initiative is what caused them to stop accepting the world's recycling and causing the massive recycling bubble.

Re: China says it wants to eliminate Bitcoin mining

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post #4

This will probably crush Bitmain and other Chinese bitcoin mining giants and they will probably move elsewhere, however Chinese courts have said bitcoin itself is legally allowed. Probably what is going to happen is that you can own but you can't mine or even obtain more bitcoins in China. https://www.ccn.com/chinas-merchants-are-legally-allowed-to-...

Bitmain makes huge margins on selling equipment, not mining. They make shovels in the gold rush.

That isn’t true. They do a lot of mining themselves. Their trouble toward end of 2018 was in part because they had so much bitcoin cash on their balance sheet made from mining on their own rigs.

Re: China says it wants to eliminate Bitcoin mining

#18

From an energy-consumption standpoint, I'm not too surprised at this. They have better uses for their mostly-non-renewable power generation. This will probably continue the push towards bitcoin mining in places with stable renewables (like hydro and geothermal). That being said, I just found https://www.coindesk.com/norway-ends-power-tax-subsidy-for-b... , which makes me wonder if current prices would be able to supp…

from planet's perspective. everyone can be thankful

Re: China says it wants to eliminate Bitcoin mining

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like they are using cheap subsidized Chinese power prices for something that they weren’t intended for. It’s more of an environmental play (since a lot of that electricity is produced by dirty coal burning).

Funny that they care about the environmental effects when the end result is something they have little control over, less so when it's a state-run or state-affiliated business

Why should China subsidize world bitcoin production with more bad air for them? At least the other stuff they use electricity to produce, like cars, steel, and rubber dog poop, has a tangible value.

Re: China says it wants to eliminate Bitcoin mining

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like they are using cheap subsidized Chinese power prices for something that they weren’t intended for. It’s more of an environmental play (since a lot of that electricity is produced by dirty coal burning).

Funny that they care about the environmental effects when the end result is something they have little control over, less so when it's a state-run or state-affiliated business

It makes sense to me. They believe their control is an important part of the country’s economic development. They’re willing to sacrifice the environment when they believe the benefits outweigh the concerns, but they trust their own plans more than that of individual actors. Not saying it’s right, but it’s consistent with their outlook on politics and government.
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