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Oral sex is associated with reduced incidence of recurrent miscarriage

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Re: Oral sex is associated with reduced incidence of recurrent miscarriage

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And increases chance of oral cancer...

Why is this downvoted? This is both absolutely true and incredibly important. It's literally a matter of life and death. edit: If you are downvoting this as an emotional reaction to something you haven't considered before, please consider calming down and examining the evidence with a rational mind. Your health and that of the people you love are at risk.

If you are worried about it get the Gardasil vaccine. It is 600$ in my country and I got it out of pocket because I think it's a great idea for anyone mildly active sexually.

Re: Oral sex is associated with reduced incidence of recurrent miscarriage

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Isn’t that just a correlation that they discovered? Aren’t there thousands of hidden variables that could explain this correlation without a causal relationship? Isn’t that a pretty weak p Value ? I just read the abstract and might have mis-interpreted it. But on a first glance this looks like an April fools joke.

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Re: Oral sex is associated with reduced incidence of recurrent miscarriage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this downvoted? This is both absolutely true and incredibly important. It's literally a matter of life and death. edit: If you are downvoting this as an emotional reaction to something you haven't considered before, please consider calming down and examining the evidence with a rational mind. Your health and that of the people you love are at risk.

If you are worried about it get the Gardasil vaccine. It is 600$ in my country and I got it out of pocket because I think it's a great idea for anyone mildly active sexually.

I agree that everybody should be vaccinated, but Gardasil only immunizes against a few strains of cancer-inducing HPV.

Re: Oral sex is associated with reduced incidence of recurrent miscarriage

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While this is a very interesting finding, I suspect p-hacking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_dredging Imagine the awkwardness when someone tries to get funding to confirm.

Data dredging is usually establishing a causation or pattern of two loosely correlated variables with no clear undesrstanding of why one have effects on the other. (correlation != causation).

In this particular case they seem to have a clear hypothesis on why there could be a strong link between one and the other: > "Oral sex might induce maternal tolerance towards paternal antigens of the fetus".

Anyway. This doesn't mean that this is a strong study. Just pointing out that at least they seem to have a theory on why oral sex can protect against miscarriages.

Re: Oral sex is associated with reduced incidence of recurrent miscarriage

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Isn’t that just a correlation that they discovered? Aren’t there thousands of hidden variables that could explain this correlation without a causal relationship? Isn’t that a pretty weak p Value ? I just read the abstract and might have mis-interpreted it. But on a first glance this looks like an April fools joke.

Well this idea has been around for a while. I always foundit a bit iffy... like, human sperm is one of the most innocent things people get in their mouths/digestive tracts... so if that can influence your immune system (and making it less effective at that), what will eating some wild viruses-containing meat or bacteria-covered fruit do?!

Re: Oral sex is associated with reduced incidence of recurrent miscarriage

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While this is a very interesting finding, I suspect p-hacking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_dredging Imagine the awkwardness when someone tries to get funding to confirm.

Data dredging is usually establishing a causation or pattern of two loosely correlated variables with no clear undesrstanding of why one have effects on the other. (correlation != causation). In this particular case they seem to have a clear hypothesis on why there could be a strong link between one and the other: > "Oral sex might induce maternal tolerance towards paternal antigens of the fetus". Anyway. This doesn'…

We don't know how many different things did they ask for on the survey? Maybe they had 100 different things that they were just spitballing might have some possible effect.
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