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>package hudson;
You might own the trademark Oracle, but you just licensed the use of it to everyone.
I don't know anything about Hudson. But when I see stories like this (big bad corporate imposes their will on open source), I always think the drama queens (on both sides) are busy having "meetings" instead of doing actual work. Want to fork? Then fork! You don't need anyone's permission. In this day of DVCS it's about two commands to fork back should relations improve. Using github is different only in degree, not i…
> I don't know anything about Hudson. But when I see stories like this (big bad corporate imposes their will on open source), I always think the drama queens (on both sides) are busy having "meetings" instead of doing actual work. >If I'm a developer, especially a developer on a project for which I'm not getting paid, I'll do the development using whatever the hell tools I want, thanks. And if someone tells me I can'…
Yes they are. If you read through the posts in the actual mailing list, consensus has been built--the consensus is "move to github".
See several developers' comments here: http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/5c6ec5888594...
http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/02a9ca4abd7d...
http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/9d4c44b83a1a...
This entire thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/browse_thread/th...
http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-dev/browse_thread/thre...
The only reason it hasn't happened already is because Oracle wants to bitch. I'm calling the developers drama queens too because instead of forking after consensus was built, which was the logical thing to do, they are still talking to Oracle and/or blogging about what Oracle will or will not let them do.
I know it is chic to dump on Oracle these days. Can we please get a neutral title or the same title as the original post? I disagree with the use of the word "another" and the question mark. A better title would be "Conflict between Oracle and Hudson project".
EDIT: It looks like Andrew Bayer, a core developer on the Hudson project, submitted the story. It also looks like any comments calling for reasonable, rational debate are being down-voted. That's all I'm asking: reasonable, rationale debate.
It looks like that Oracle doesn't like the way that the project is run and this isn't an attack on open source. This is a disagreement about how the project is run. But we can't even have that debate because the topic has been slanted.
name the fork SSBounty
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't know anything about Hudson. But when I see stories like this (big bad corporate imposes their will on open source), I always think the drama queens (on both sides) are busy having "meetings" instead of doing actual work. >If I'm a developer, especially a developer on a project for which I'm not getting paid, I'll do the development using whatever the hell tools I want, thanks. And if someone tells me I can'…
> Those "meetings" you seem to disdain aren't just for people to bitch. Yes they are. If you read through the posts in the actual mailing list, consensus has been built--the consensus is "move to github". See several developers' comments here: http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/5c6ec5888594... http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/02a9ca4abd7d... http://groups.google.com/group/hudson-users/msg/…
I'm kind of rooting for a fork, just as a lab of top-down versus developer-driven progress, with the Oracle version staying on SVN. Cool names might be 'NortheastPassage' or 'Passage', for the water-navigable route explorer Henry Hudson sought. Or something based on features near the Hudson river in New York, like 'Adirondack' or 'Albany'. Or something in contrast or crossing of the river, like 'EastRiver' or 'GWBrid…
"Oracle in conflict with another open source project?" I know it is chic to dump on Oracle these days. Can we please get a neutral title or the same title as the original post? I disagree with the use of the word "another" and the question mark. A better title would be "Conflict between Oracle and Hudson project". EDIT: It looks like Andrew Bayer, a core developer on the Hudson project, submitted the story. It also l…
2. It's not known whether this will lead to a full blown "conflict" (although, who are we kidding, it probably will)
Silent "larger community" user has spoken.